r/nba Magic Sep 13 '22 Silver 1 Helpful 1 Take My Energy 1

[Charania] NBA has suspended Suns owner Robert Sarver for one year from the Suns and Mercury organization based on league investigation. Sarver has also been fined $10 million and complete training program focused on respect and appropriate workplace conduct. News

http://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1569718124177391617
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u/Dylan245 Bulls Sep 13 '22

What does suspending an owner even do

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u/hrakkari Nets Sep 13 '22

Now he can no longer suit up and play games.

The Suns are fucked.

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u/gotcam189 Timberwolves Sep 13 '22

Should be the opposite. Make him suit up and play 15 minutes a night. If he quits, he has to give up ownership.

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u/fascistcheese Sep 13 '22

10 minutes per game. An NBA team would target him over and over. It’s almost guaranteed to have an affect on wins. Fans would stop coming and it would actually hurt his pocketbook which is all he cares about

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u/JunkScientist Cavaliers Sep 13 '22

Uh... that stadium would be packed every night lol. They could probably charge even more. Watching some rich asshole get destroyed every night would be so cathartic.

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u/ladidadi82 Nuggets Sep 13 '22

Lmao fr, i would actually watch suns games

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u/propthink Sep 14 '22

Imagine Zion absolutely burying it against Bezos

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u/Zloggt Bulls Sep 13 '22

How can Phoenix ever do well this season without their literal billion dollar benchwarmer 😔

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u/HesiPullup Suns Sep 13 '22

I wish he was a billionaire for the sake of the team.

He’s one of the least wealthy owners in the league, which may be partially why he’s so cheap

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u/runthruamfersface Warriors Sep 13 '22

That and paying unnecessary legal bills related to his own misconduct

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u/Laszlo-Panaflex Celtics Sep 13 '22

He's just a shitty owner and his wealth isn't the cause of the team's dysfunction and mediocrity. Sarver is #27 in net worth. Wyc Grousbeck from the Celtics is #28 and has a slightly smaller net worth but opens up his checkbook. Jeanie Buss is #26 and same. The Spurs owner has the smallest net worth.

Those are all pretty great teams. Celtics fans saw the change that happened when our shitty owner Paul Gaston sold the team to Wyc + co. That led to Ainge, a chip and back to relevancy. Gaston was the cheapest bastard in the league and made the worst decisions.

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u/hanacker Lakers Sep 13 '22

Lakers have one of the largest tv deals and they still cheaped out on paying Caruso. But I agree with your larger point.

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u/TW_Yellow78 Sep 13 '22

Apparently the length of the investigation was 1 month investigation which espn already did and 9 months him complaining 10 mil was too much for a fine.

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u/Photo_Synthetic Mavericks Sep 13 '22

Surprised Luka isn't facing any consequences he's owned the team since May 15th 2022.

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u/deftspyder Lakers Sep 13 '22

ll still give you russ and a first for him.

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u/youguanbumen Supersonics Sep 13 '22

I’m mostly curious what this means in case the Suns want to make a trade this season. Can the GM ask Sarver whether he agrees? Does the GM just decide by himself?

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u/lankyyanky Knicks Sep 13 '22

Most people credit the Yankees dynasty in the 90s due to Steinbrenner's suspension. Kept him from trading away prospects like Jeter, Rivera et al for aging stars. So I would guess no he can't input on them, I would guess the suns would make minimal moves then

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u/man2010 Celtics Sep 13 '22

If only it stopped them from trading Jay Buhner

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u/Airp0w Sep 13 '22

He had thirty homeruns, over one hundred RBIs, he's got a rocket for an arm, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE DOIN'!

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u/William_Wang Jazz Sep 13 '22

They kept saying Ken Phelps, Ken Phelps.

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u/Overall-Palpitation6 Sep 13 '22

"Jerry, it's Frank Costanza. Mr Steinbrenner's here, George is dead, call me back!"

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u/Iceraptor17 Celtics Sep 13 '22

I mean, the baseball people just loved his bat.

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u/ThePevster Lakers Sep 13 '22

It’s actually because George Constanza, a grossly incompetent employee, was fired.

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u/OneTwoREEEE Sep 13 '22

Why was George Steinbrenner suspended?

As part of his feud with outfielder Dave Winfield, Steinbrenner paid a local criminal to dig up dirt on Winfield to ruin his reputation and get him to agree to be traded.

Flash forward 25 years. MLB commissioner Bud Selig pays a local criminal to dig up dirt on Alex Rodriguez. Not only was Bud not suspended, he’s been induced in the HOF.

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u/Margravos Suns Sep 13 '22

Jahm Najafi is the second largest investor and co-vice chair. I assume he'll be in charge.

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u/ja-mez Trail Blazers Sep 13 '22 edited Sep 14 '22

I'm also curious. It's not like the GM now gets to do whatever he wants and function as the owner. They also won't be banned from making trades/signing new players. Until I hear otherwise, I assume he will 100% still function as the owner. Other than a fine, seems like this is just a public scolding. Temporary humiliation. Slap on the wrist. His estimated net worth is near $1 billion. He'll be fine

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u/tronovich Bulls Sep 13 '22 edited Sep 13 '22

If the rest of the team wants him out, they can set him up by engaging him in talking to the team while suspended.

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u/d4ntoine Warriors Sep 13 '22

Absolutely nothing if the owner doesn't even care about or isn't heavily involved in front office affairs.

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u/onamonapizza Spurs Sep 13 '22

Yep…he will just sit and watch the games on his 2000 inch TV in his mansion like he probably does 90% of the time anyways

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u/lotsofdeadkittens Sep 13 '22

I mean, the punishment isn’t enough but if we pretend luke this doesn’t matter we get no where either

A big part of ownership is getting to wave your dick around to the players, staff, fans etc in person at events and games. Every owner would be mad to lose that for a yesr

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u/indoninjah 76ers Sep 13 '22 edited Sep 13 '22

I guarantee he'll be in contact with the FO anyway. It's not like the league is gonna wiretap the GM and POBO's phones. Owning a team is a massive investment and he's not gonna go fully hands-off with it

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u/KenTrotts Magic Sep 13 '22

Yep. And after he does get in touch with James Jones are you even questioning that the GM isn't going to follow his direction knowing that the guy will be formally back in 12 months?

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u/KeithClossOfficial Lakers Sep 13 '22

If George Steinbrenner was able to refrain from being involved with the Yankees while he was banned from baseball, I think Sarver will. They don’t need to wiretap the phones, but it will be easy to prove if he violates this suspension, and he’d be in for a world of shit if he did. I also don’t think James Jones is going to risk his ass for Sarver. He’s well regarded and if Sarver lets him go for refusing to violate the suspension, he’ll land on his feet quickly. If he breaks the rules, that doesn’t happen.

Suns fans can rejoice. When The Boss was away from the Yankees, they built the foundation that led to their dynasty.

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u/Wont_reply69 West Sep 13 '22

Every owner would be fine with a year if the last guy who got in trouble for the thing they did was forced to sell their team.

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u/enad58 [MIL] Joel Przybilla Sep 13 '22

The worst thing that can happen to an owner is handing them a bag filled with 2 billion dollars.

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u/tlopez14 Bulls Sep 13 '22

You’re more right than other people are giving you credit for. Those things are a HUGE reason why these rich assholes buy teams. I just wonder how strict the suspension guidelines are in regards to the non game day stuff. Is he not allowed to be in the building for a year, go to any team related events, etc, or just not allowed to go to games

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u/LazerWeazel Clippers Sep 13 '22

Frank's 2000 inch TV? I gotta get one of my own real soon. It's like having a drive in movie in your own living room.

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u/thecolbster94 Suns Sep 13 '22

Well Sarver used to act like a second GM at times, not recently though, the biggest difference is Larry Fitzgerald has to find someone else to sit next to at games now.

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u/CuriousWhoDat [NOP] Peja Stojakovic Sep 13 '22

Holy shit

Guess he’s going to have spend the season in the Hamptons 🥲

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u/Lmnja [OKC] Andre Roberson Sep 13 '22 edited Oct 19 '22

Where are the Hamptons?

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u/Snuggle__Monster Knicks Sep 13 '22

Now he'll have plenty of time to test ride in one of Elon's rockets. Damn, the league really sent a message.

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u/360FlipKicks Warriors Sep 13 '22

I’m sure he’s sobbing into a pile of hunneds as we speak

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u/KneelBeforeCube Bulls Sep 13 '22

Yeah, and with 10 million dollars less on his 850 million net worth. He might as well live in a trailer park.

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u/Tokinandjokin Sep 13 '22

Why do NBA owners get suspended and then nothing will ever happen to Dan Snyder in the NFL?

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u/Polar_Reflection Lakers Sep 13 '22

They did suspend Dan for a season, and fined him $10m. Pretty much the exact punishment. He "stepped away from the day-to-day operations of the team" and let his wife "run things" for a year.

What Dan has done, though, is orders of magnitude worse.

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u/twenty3isnumber1 Lakers Sep 13 '22

Because the NFL is incompetent, and this includes the commissioner.

The DeShaun Watson thing is fucking despicable.

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u/DogmaticNuance Warriors Sep 13 '22

They're not incompetent, they pursue a policy of non-accountability and present the commissioner as the ruddy faced poster boy of incompetence to draw the ire of fans and prevent them from demanding actual change.

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u/Bee_lrl Tampa Bay Raptors Sep 13 '22

People forget commissioner is just the face of the owners

Literally just a spokesperson most of the time, they wont punish anyone that the rest of the owners dont agree to

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u/Dirty0ldMan Magic Sep 13 '22

I think lightning rod is a more appropriate term.

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u/Rage_Like_Nic_Cage [DAL] Dirk Nowitzki Sep 13 '22

if Goddell was competent/willing to hold owners accountable, they never would have hired him as commissioner in the first place.

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u/Pardonme23 Lakers Sep 13 '22

They're quite competent lol. They make the most money.

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u/NoGas9518 Bulls Sep 13 '22

I don’t follow the bel, what happened with deshaun Watson?

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u/halbort Celtics Sep 13 '22

One of the big reasons they did nothing to Watson is that they didn't want people to ask questions about the owner's dirty history. The Union would have sued to try to reveal issues with the owners.

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u/Revolutionary_Log307 Sep 13 '22

I stopped watching the NFL until they get rid of Snyder. I'm sure they'll cave any day now.

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u/Pardonme23 Lakers Sep 13 '22

When the nuclear apocalypse comes the only things left will be cockroaches and Dan Snyder

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u/filterface Nets Sep 13 '22

Actually same. Our numbers have doubled. They’re on the ropes

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u/Frosti11icus Trail Blazers Sep 13 '22

Nothing happened to Sarver either. This is the type of results you get from the dog and pony show the internet demands. The NFL fans don't have those same demands.

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u/Polar_Reflection Lakers Sep 13 '22

The NFL literally gave Snyder this exact same sentence.

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u/SomeLightAssPlay Sep 13 '22

Should make George Costanza drive him….you know George has a house there

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u/Guwop25 Mavericks Bandwagon Sep 13 '22

Watching the games from his mansion so he can't hear the fans booing smh my head

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u/10b-5 NBA Sep 13 '22

To be fair, the Hamptons do kinda suck in winter.

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u/AutographedSnorkel Rockets Sep 13 '22

Dan Snyder will give him some tips on how to do shitty things and not face any consequences

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u/iksnet Knicks Sep 13 '22

Gave that man a vacation and a few mandated Zoom sessions on how to not be racist

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u/heybobson Suns Sep 13 '22

dude was already soft-suspended last year anyway, since he kept out of the spotlight while the investigation was ongoing. I guess this just means he can't be involved in any organizational activities.

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u/Long-Ad1788 Sep 13 '22 edited Sep 13 '22

He is having his subordinates read White Fragility and then they will debrief him as well as give him a print-out with the bullet points. What more do you want?

Edited a word

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u/Vswerve27 Wizards Sep 13 '22

So they found the allegations to be true and this is the punishment??? Super weak

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u/HokageEzio Knicks Sep 13 '22

We call that the Deshaun Watson.

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u/browndude10 Rockets Sep 13 '22

NFL: let's suspend him for weird number of games only for him to make his debut against his former team $$$$

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u/TheMentatBashar Cavaliers Sep 13 '22

That length was also the max they could give him while still forcing the Browns to pay his full salary. Seems like one of the factors was trying to not let the Browns financially off the hook for their decision to trade + sign Watson.

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u/jamesxn Bucks Sep 13 '22

His salary this year is basically nothing though. That was the entire point of why they structured his contract the way they did.

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u/TheMentatBashar Cavaliers Sep 13 '22

I guess if he is suspended for the year, his contract wouldn't begin in earnest until next season, so that tiny first year salary would get punted to next year, giving the Browns better cap flexibility that offseason to bolster the roster around Watson.

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u/jimbo831 Timberwolves Sep 13 '22

You’re misunderstanding actually. It only being 11 games helps the Browns and Watson. They want his contract to toll.

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u/RugbyDore Celtics Sep 13 '22

Didn’t the browns specifically structure Watson’s salary around him not playing part or all of this season?

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u/TheMentatBashar Cavaliers Sep 13 '22

Yeah but I guess if he was suspended for longer. His contract wouldn't begin in earnest until next season, which would have given the Browns a lot more cap flexibility next offseason.

The rumor is other owners were pushing for less than one full season to punish the Browns for giving him the fully guaranteed contract.

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u/LockCL Sep 13 '22

In a nutshell they were more pissed about them paying him all that money, hence making it easier for others to demand the same, than about Watson being a sexual predator.

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u/NoWorkLifeBalance Rockets Sep 13 '22

I feel like if the league didn’t dick around for so long and actually suspended Watson when they should have, it here wouldn’t be any of this stupid mess.

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u/s_s Cavaliers Sep 13 '22

The critical mistake you are making is thinking the NFL cares at all that they employ a weirdo-creep.

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u/theytook-r-jobs [PHI] Clarence Weatherspoon Sep 13 '22

We call that the every rich connected person since time was invented.

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u/SouthernUpstate Celtics Sep 13 '22

They weren’t going to make him sell the team, in terms of league history this is a pretty hefty punishment (albeit not much money for a billionaire)

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u/youguanbumen Supersonics Sep 13 '22

I don’t think they can even make an owner sell their team. The Clippers sale only happened because of the actions of what’s-his-name’s wife.

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u/DunkFaceKilla Warriors Sep 13 '22

this. Sterling has prepared to fight the sale to the death if it wasn't for his wife's actions

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u/pm_me_cheesy_bread Lakers Sep 13 '22

What did his wife do that made him have to sell?

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22

Had him declared legally incompetent so she became the de facto owner and sold.

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u/C0oK1e_Monsta [NBA] Kobe Bryant Sep 13 '22 edited Sep 14 '22

Wow what a power move. Game of thrones-esque

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u/ApoliticalAth3ist Sep 13 '22

How did that stand?

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22

Well, you gotta remember he is old as fuck (iirc 80 at the time) and there were 25+ billionaires with a lot of soft power wanting him to fuck off. And his own actions as well.

Iirc it wasnt even difficult, shit was pretty straight forward and thats why people just assumed the nba/silver was the one forcing the sale.

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u/ApoliticalAth3ist Sep 13 '22

Oh that just worked out conveniently for the nba then. I did not know that part. Makes more sense why this time Sarver is only getting a slap on the wrist

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22

Im sure the nba and his wife worked together to make shit smooth and fast as possible.

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u/Iohet Clippers Sep 13 '22

It takes 75% of the owners to terminate/expel another owner

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u/TravelAdvanced Sep 13 '22

she could pursue power of attorney- he was losing his grip on reality towards the end. she was owner in name as well as him

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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe Lakers Sep 13 '22

The tl;dr is that his wife was co-owner with him. She told the league she would sell. While he was busying flip flopping on whether he'd sell/not sell and sue/not sue over it, she got an order from a judge that he wasn't competent to act as a trustee due to Alzheimer's. So then she was able to make the decision to sell without him.

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u/souttous Sep 13 '22

Sarver isn’t a billionaire. He’s worth $700M. Fuggin broke boi.

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u/definitelyoranges Sep 13 '22

Dos comas, what a loser.

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u/peepeedog Warriors Sep 13 '22

Sarver sells picks and players for cash. I assure you he is unhappy about that large a fine.

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u/ActualAdvice Sep 13 '22

I wonder if we'll get that detail.

Could be SOME were true and this was the right level for those transgressions.

Could be even worse and they think this is enough for people to ignore it

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u/RosaReilly Sep 13 '22 edited Sep 13 '22
  • Sarver said the N-word at least five times in repeating or purporting to repeat what a Black person said—four of those after being told by both Black and white subordinates that he should not use the word, even in repetition of another.

  • Sarver used language and engaged in conduct demeaning of female employees. Among other examples, he told a pregnant employee that she would be unable to do her job upon becoming a mother; berated a female employee in front of others and then commented that women cry too much; and arranged an all-female lunch so that female employees at Western Alliance Bank, where at the time he was CEO, could explain to female Suns employees how to handle his demands.

  • Sarver commented and made jokes frequently to employees in large and small settings about sex and sex-related anatomy, including by making crude or otherwise inappropriate comments about the physical appearance and bodies of female employees and other women. On four occasions, Sarver engaged in workplace-inappropriate physical conduct toward male employees.

  • Over 50 current and former employees reported that Sarver frequently engaged in demeaning and harsh treatment of employees—including by yelling and cursing at them—that on occasion constituted bullying under workplace standards

  • Numerous witnesses reported that Sarver’s aggressive behavior in the workplace well exceeded what might be expected of a demanding leader. Witnesses said that Sarver’s workplace actions often seemed intended solely to provoke a reaction from employees—to embarrass them or assert dominance over them. Witnesses said that Sarver was erratic and unpredictable, and that his sense of humor—the perceived driver behind some of the conduct described in this report—was “sophomoric,” “awkward,” and inappropriate for the workplace. Witnesses said that Sarver believed workplace norms did not apply to him and viewed common conventions as to what language he should use and what conduct he should avoid as a form of challenge

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u/panetero Spain Sep 13 '22

Should probably run for President.

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u/Good_NewsEveryone Pelicans Sep 13 '22

Also reminder that he vehemently denied all of the allegations after the story came out

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u/TonalParsnips Suns Sep 13 '22

Used the organization to publish a statement and email it to STH's (and the entire fan distro list) denying it, under the shield of the organization. So fucked up.

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u/PrOKCedure Thunder Sep 13 '22

I wonder if he did that because he might try to appeal this

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u/americanbeaver Bucks Sep 13 '22 edited Sep 13 '22

Exactly my reaction. If the allegations are true/have proof then this is a bullshit penalty. If the allegations aren't true and the NBA is just using this penalty to sweep this whole story under the rug. Then the penalty is still bullshit.

We'll have to wait to see what the NBA publishes as the result of their investigation to really know how to judge this news imo.

EDIT: seems the NBA found the allegations to be true, and this is all the "punishment" he gets. What a bunch of bullshit. People were harmed and are going to continue to be harmed by Robert Sarver and the NBA is just fine with keeping him in a position of power. Like a year off is going to change who he is as a person. Just a sham.

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u/FizzWigget Warriors Sep 13 '22

Lol yep a slap on the wrist

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u/iSleepUpsideDown East Sep 13 '22

Suns fans 9/11 that he isn’t forced to sell

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u/tisdue Suns Sep 13 '22

honestly, game 7 was worse.

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u/FrnklndaTurtle Suns Sep 13 '22

On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone is zero. Game 7 is but a blip.

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u/aquamarine9 Bulls Sep 13 '22

“At least we’re all going to die anyway” is a good cope, gonna be using this from now on

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u/FrnklndaTurtle Suns Sep 13 '22

Got me through some much darker Suns moments then that game 7!

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u/hotpocketthrowaway Warriors Sep 13 '22

I've been using it for years

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u/Jefe051 Suns Sep 13 '22

Game 7 was one game; Sarver coming back means we will have plenty more game 7s in the future. But damn that was a brutal game.

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u/Bubbly_Measurement61 Celtics Sep 13 '22

So much worse lol

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u/anotherloss- Sep 13 '22

NBA has no leverage this shit is bigger than money

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u/kisv23 Nuggets Sep 13 '22

Isn’t there literally precedent for Silver banning someone for life for saying racist shit?

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u/DunkFaceKilla Warriors Sep 13 '22

kind of. Silver tried but it never actually went to a vote to implement the punishment because his ex-wife stole control of the team out from under him and sold it first

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u/captain_ahabb Lakers Sep 13 '22

Sterling wasn’t banned, his wife took control of the team and sold it

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u/youguanbumen Supersonics Sep 13 '22

I think what the report said Sarver did is not as egregious as what Sterling did. Sarver repeated other people’s comments. Sterling made his own.

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u/lotsofdeadkittens Sep 13 '22

There’s really been a loss of relativity in this shit. Racism is fucking disgusting but there are levels to it

I have one uncle that says Fox News shit and another that calls black people the n word and calls cops on black people. The Fox News guy has genuinely gotten less and less racist over the years

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u/asdkijf Cavaliers Sep 13 '22

If this happened in April and players threatened to boycott a playoff game over Sarver then he probably would be banned for life too.

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u/AH_BioTwist Kings Sep 13 '22

Sterling was declared incompetent thanks in part to him being having Alzheimer’s so the ownership shifted to his ExWife.

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u/Next-Firefighter-753 Thunder Sep 13 '22 edited Sep 13 '22

That’s honestly bullshit. Suns fans are being held hostage by Sarver and his bullshit. Bad enough they went through what they did last playoffs. Having a racist POS cheap owner makes the pain sting even worse.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22

Fr we’ve been talking for months hoping this would finally be it, and it’s a fucking 1 yr suspension despite being a known pos

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u/romanapplesauce Suns Sep 13 '22

Our 9/11 is the Amare/Diaw suspensions. I will never get over that.

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u/HokageEzio Knicks Sep 13 '22

Ooh, 1 year. Really breaking out the big guns, Silver.

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u/youguanbumen Supersonics Sep 13 '22

I think this reflects the reality of how the NBA is structured. Silver works for the 30 teams, not the other way around.

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u/DocCharlesXavier Sep 13 '22

I thought this was pretty much understood. The Sterling "ban for life" came at the behest of the other 29 owners. The repercussions to these billionaires' wallets if they kept a slaveowner-mentality owner in place, with the majority of NBA players being AA, would've taken a huge hit.

NBA gets a good PR rep by kicking Sterling out, Sterling gets 2 billion dollars, and the owners save their own investments.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22

And even then, he was gonna fight the forced sale in court and maybe even win.

His wife had him legally declared incompetent and as the executor (or whatever legal term there is) she was the de facto owner and sold.

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u/Ohellmotel Sep 13 '22

Put Triple H in charge.

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u/JaysonBaetum Celtics Sep 13 '22

Real question: how do you suspend an owner? He’s just forced to relinquish all decision making? Anyone know how it works?

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u/RosaReilly Sep 13 '22

He's not allowed to:

  • be present at any NBA or WNBA facility (including office, arena or practice facility).

  • attend any NBA or WNBA event or activity (games, practices or business activities)

  • represent the Suns or Mercury in any capacity

  • have any involvement with the business or basketball operations of the Suns or the Mercury.

  • have any involvement with the business, governance or activity of the NBA or the WNBA (eg, attending board meetings)

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u/AccomplishedRainbow1 Suns Sep 13 '22

How is that even feasible. Let’s say they actually follow the rules, James Jones is going to just make whatever decision he thinks is right in terms of trades, extensions, free agency? It makes no sense lol.

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u/Thehorse33 Celtics Sep 13 '22

Imagine if James Jones just goes all in and goes heavily into the luxury tax using Sarvers money and there’s nothing he can do about it.

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u/AccomplishedRainbow1 Suns Sep 13 '22

RIGHT. Lol none of this makes any sense.

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u/WhiteHeterosexualGuy Hawks Sep 13 '22

lol it's an on paper punishment and probably has no teeth for enforcement, and I doubt the league has any intention to enforce it.

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u/lotsofdeadkittens Sep 13 '22

No it’s not, it’s really easy to enforce. Someone that doesn’t like sarver (most everyone) will just eat on him if he shows up somewhere

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u/Oshebekdujeksk Sep 13 '22

The ticketing department needs to put out some BOGO deals and how about some cheap beer?

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u/GaryBettmanIsMyHomie Suns Sep 13 '22

He’s not the only owner, just the managing partner for the group. Someone else from the group will have governor authority for the year, undoubtedly

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22

There are way more people involved than Sarver and Jones

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u/CapitalismEnthusiast Kings Sep 13 '22

Can't Sarver just text Jones everything he wants done? Such a weird punishment.

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u/Produceher Warriors Sep 13 '22

They took away his phone. /s

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u/StoneColdAM Lakers Sep 13 '22

James Jones gonna go as deep into the luxury tax as possible in one year.

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u/e_a_blair Pelicans Sep 13 '22

[Chanaria] Sarver will also be required to sing a song of his choosing in front of the entire class.

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u/tonto515 76ers Sep 13 '22

Slap on the hand for a billionaire.

Edit: $850M by one estimate, but close enough.

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u/WestleyThe [SEA] Kevin Durant Sep 13 '22

I totally forgot about the Sarver investigation I’m glad something came from it

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u/floatersforalgernon Sep 13 '22

I’m glad something came from it

Based on the severity of his actions, this classifies as "nothing."

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22

Oh fuck off, dude can be racist & sexually assaulting and just gets a year suspension. Silver is a coward

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u/SuckMyLonzoBalls Clippers Sep 13 '22

My favorite comment on this subreddit was when Sterling got banned and the top comment was a Knicks fan saying why can’t Dolan be racist?

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u/Good_NewsEveryone Pelicans Sep 13 '22

be racist on tape*

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u/tkbchimyjr18 Raptors Sep 13 '22

The tape makes all the difference. Sarver was caught saying or doing any of those things on video, it would make for a harsher punishment

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u/mikebaldi Sep 13 '22

It really does. Everyone forgets Donald Sterling was sued TWICE for racial discrimination, once by the US Justice Department which I'm pretty sure ended with a record payout by Sterling. There was deposition testimony of him saying shit worse than what as on tape.

And it wasn't like this was back in the 70s or something, so it got swept under the rug, this shit happened in like the 00s.

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u/WestleyThe [SEA] Kevin Durant Sep 13 '22

”For life”

“For one year”

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u/lolvalue Heat Sep 13 '22

Sarver is his boss.

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u/skrtskerskrt Lakers Sep 13 '22

they forget the owners don't work for Silver, Silver works for them

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u/ositola Lakers Sep 13 '22

It only counts if it's on tape apparently

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22

It only counts if the owner's spouse has them declared mentally incompetent and can sell the team without their consent. Had that not happened, Sterling could have gone nuclear on the league and the ensuing drama would have been absolutely wild.

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u/masterfain Clippers Sep 13 '22

I feel like most people don’t get it. The clippers and it’s fans got extremely lucky with how things played out. We likely won’t ever see what happened to Sterling happen to another owner ever again unless it’s something truly egregious

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u/Jkcanwien Sep 13 '22

thats regular life tho

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u/draculas-shaggyballs NBA Sep 13 '22

Did he assault anyone? From what I've read so far, it's only verbal abuse. I know this sub expected more, but there's really only so much you can do when it's second hand account of verbal crimes. The NBA is an amalgamation of the 30 teams, there really isn't much the league can do against its own part owner for non-violent crimes.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22

Reddit would like to see someone publicly hanged over verbal abuse.

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u/youguanbumen Supersonics Sep 13 '22

Does the report say he sexually assaulted people?

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u/walterdog12 [ITA] Best of 2021 Winner Sep 13 '22

*The other owners.

Silver is just a mouthpiece, just like all sports commissioners.

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u/NarstyHobbitses [LAL] Sasha Vujačić Sep 13 '22 edited Sep 13 '22

You can say this as much as you want and people on here won't understand what a Commissioner is. I've given up.

If people really want to know why Donald Sterling was kicked out, it's because he was despised by other owners, not just because of what he got recorded saying. Same with Hinkie and how owners felt he was tainting the League's image (and therefore their bottom line).

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u/MayanReam Lakers Sep 13 '22

Lol training on respect. These people are looney

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u/olivermillertime Suns Sep 13 '22

My father is a member at a country club in the San Diego area. He told me that Robert Sarver was a guest at the club a few years back - and on the middle of a hole, he simply pulled down his pants and took a shit on the golf course in plain view. He is banned for life.

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u/Dramatic_Historian Sep 13 '22

Is this a copypasta? Is that real?

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u/ArugulaGazebo Trail Blazers Sep 13 '22

I was thinking the same thing.

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u/NoWayNotThisAgain Sep 13 '22

The dude is a known asshole. I saw Sarver in the pro shop of a country club in Scottsdale back in 2019. I told him how much I loved the team and how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away to go look at some new putters they had, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for some golf balls up front I saw him trying to walk out the door with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly. Such a dick.

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u/skrtskerskrt Lakers Sep 13 '22

You have to admit, that is kinda sick and twisted yet funny at the same time that someone would add some fertilizer on the country club green. I'll see myself out.

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u/urfaselol [NBA] Best of 2021 Winner Sep 13 '22

weak

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u/melennia Heat Sep 13 '22

Get fucked loser

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u/bagfka Mavericks Sep 13 '22

Kind of soft compared to what David stern would do

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u/urfaselol [NBA] Best of 2021 Winner Sep 13 '22

soft compared to what first year Adam Silver did to Donald Sterling

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u/quentin-coldwater [CLE] Kevin Love Sep 13 '22

People forget. The difference was (1) that Donald Sterling's comments had the players rebelling and talking about sitting out games and (2) he was old and demented and easy to push out.

Sarver is mentally capable and willing to fight any attempt to make him sell the team. And Chris Paul literally plays for the Suns and hasn't said boo.

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u/iSleepUpsideDown East Sep 13 '22 edited Sep 13 '22

(3) Sterling was on tape

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u/heybobson Suns Sep 13 '22

You mean Sterling was on tape.

But also Sterling had a notorious reputation for being outwardly racist to players and such (Blake Griffin tells the story of first meeting him), yet Stern did nothing about it until leaked audio was finally released.

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u/Marnold13 Mavericks Sep 13 '22

That Blake Griffin story was wild

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u/lotsofdeadkittens Sep 13 '22

Comparing sterling to Sarcee is completely disingenuous because sterling had decades of racist commments out there

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u/sublliminali Warriors Sep 13 '22

That was the biggie. The clip spread like wildfire and all it took was 30 seconds of audio for someone to be revolted by the man. With Sarver you had to read a 10,000 word article that had nuance and several allegations but none that were so concrete and revolting that the news would spread to casual fans and create a larger uproar. Sad, because after reading that piece I think the league needs to force a sale.

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u/Smellmyhand [SAS] Devin Brown Sep 13 '22

*Sterling but yes

The tape caused the story to spiral out of just NBA talk. It was headline news. Pretty much nobody who isn’t a diehard nba fan has heard of the Sarver story

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u/ContractEqual2047 Sep 13 '22

Ding ding ding. That was the difference for a lot players as well. Ray Rice was banned from the nfl essentially. I doubt what he did was much worse than what most players with a domestic violence charge have done. But when there’s a video then the league and can’t sweep it under the rug as easy

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u/SuckMyLonzoBalls Clippers Sep 13 '22

Shoutout for silver for having the balls to doing so

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bmat5WSCcAA8eP8.jpg

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u/urfaselol [NBA] Best of 2021 Winner Sep 13 '22

first jersey to be retired at Intuit Dome is V.Stiviano

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u/legobartman Clippers Sep 13 '22

we're hanging her visor up opening night

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u/HokageEzio Knicks Sep 13 '22

This is soft compared to what Adam Silver would do lol.

You can say the N word, just don't say it on camera.

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u/redd5ive Wizards Sep 13 '22

This stuff was probably really goddamn prevalent in Stern’s era.

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u/antisocially_awkward Knicks Sep 13 '22

Stern let sterling own the clippers for his entire tenure as commissioner

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u/Brad-Stevens Celtics Sep 13 '22

Would be very funny if Suns won the title this year

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u/LOVEGOD77 Cavaliers Sep 13 '22

How the hell does a 1 year suspension effect the owner??

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u/UnObtainium17 23 Sep 13 '22

With how much Sarver seem to enjoy being around minorities, this shit might be doing him a favor.

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u/denverblazer Trail Blazers Sep 13 '22

*affect (sorry)

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u/Doot2112 Nets Sep 13 '22

Good for him. He will have plenty of time to use those extra large condoms

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u/2005sonics Supersonics Sep 13 '22

surprised they didn't announce this a day before thanksgiving on 4:45pm

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u/JJiggy13 Lakers Sep 13 '22

He must have too much money for the league to just pretend that he's racist and force him out.

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u/es_cl Sep 13 '22

Chris Paul may have zero rings but he’s played under 2 racist owners.

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u/pokegame101 Mavericks Sep 13 '22

As someone who hasn’t kept up with this story, what did he do, and is this a fair punishment?

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u/RosaReilly Sep 13 '22

Here's the summary from the report:

This conduct included the use of racially insensitive language; unequal treatment of female employees; sex-related statements and conduct; and harsh treatment of employees that on occasion constituted bullying. The conduct was consistent over the period—of those interviewed, over 100 individuals witnessed Sarver’s statements or actions that violated applicable standards. And the conduct had a substantial impact on employees, with some witnesses describing their experiences with Sarver in emotional and forceful terms.

As set forth in more detail below, during the period:

  • Sarver said the N-word at least five times in repeating or purporting to repeat what a Black person said—four of those after being told by both Black and white subordinates that he should not use the word, even in repetition of another.

  • Sarver used language and engaged in conduct demeaning of female employees. Among other examples, he told a pregnant employee that she would be unable to do her job upon becoming a mother; berated a female employee in front of others and then commented that women cry too much;and arranged an all-female lunch so that female employees at Western Alliance Bank, where at the time he was CEO, could explain to female Suns employees how to handle his demands.

  • Sarver commented and made jokes frequently to employees in large and small settings about sex and sex-related anatomy, including by making crude or otherwise inappropriate comments about the physical appearance and bodies of female employees and other women. On four occasions, Sarver engaged in workplace-inappropriate physical conduct toward male employees.

  • Over 50 current and former employees reported that Sarver frequently engaged in demeaning and harsh treatment of employees—including by yelling and cursing at them—that on occasion constituted bullying under workplace standards.

While it is difficult to identify with precision what motivated Sarver’s workplace behavior described in this report, certain patterns emerged from witness accounts: Sarver often acted aggressively in an apparent effort to provoke a reaction from his targets; Sarver’s sense of humor was sophomoric and inappropriate for the workplace; and Sarver behaved as though workplace norms and policies did not apply to him. Witnesses observed that Sarver “lacked a filter” and “thrive[d] off” saying and doing things to make others uncomfortable.

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