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u/eat_my_rubber
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These lights are red so they don’t disturb bats. /r/ALL
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They also work for humans
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u/JustPlat 8d ago •
I started using red lights at home after 9 pm. Sleeping so much better. Thanks, Andrew Huberman.
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u/giltwist 8d ago
I don't think you need to go all the way to red lights. I just switched to amber "vintage" bulbs in the 2000k-2700k color temperature range.
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u/5MOKE5_III 8d ago
I just outfitted all the living spaces in my house with that Wiz brand of color changing bulbs. All the other ones the app never worked right but these work great with my phone. Movie night is a whole new experience.. as well as passing out on the couch.
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u/Darksirius 8d ago
Kasa makes decent smart LED bulbs. Have a bunch at my place. Can change to all sorts of colors. And they work with Alexa / Google home if you want that.
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u/dreadpiratebeardface 8d ago
Kasa makes the smart switches I put in and they are the ONLY brand I have not had issues with. Every other brand of smart bulb, etc has been problematic. I have so many apps on my phone for various home automation crap... Feit, GE, Wiz, Bazz... I have heard very good things about Phillips Hue, but I don't have $40 to spend on each bulb.
In the realm of automation that never has problems, Govee is the other brand I have used, which is great, and I know a few event producers who use Govee stuff in their productions because it seems to be most reliable.
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u/butcandy 8d ago
I have a huge box of all my old kasa lights, the switch to Phillips is worth the price jump. Connect and stay connected better, with the hub you can use way more features like party mode, sync, and automations. If I had internet issues I'd have to wander around my house resetting like 20 bulbs one at a time.
Well at least for normal A19 bulbs, some of the hue line is outrageous in price. I still use kasa for light switches and indoor outdoor outlets.
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u/dreadpiratebeardface 8d ago
Idk about Kasa bulbs, but the smart dimmers have been working perfectly for 2 years now in my house.
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u/droptop2k 8d ago
Agreed I have a full range of Philips bulbs throughout my home .. seamless and worth every penny
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u/CalpisMelonCremeSoda 8d ago
The color you perceive, and the actual color (I.e., set of wavelengths) are two different things, so something to think about for smart bulbs. The red light for bats it’s presumably narrow-band, meaning relatively little to no bleed into non-red wavelengths that bats’ retinas are sensitive to.
However a smart light probably has a mix of three narrow band LEDs, much like a computer monitor. Those LED wavelengths (of red green and blue) are the REAL colors your eye is being exposed to, even though they can mix to selectively trigger your retina’s three types of cones to PERCEIVE all colors. So the yellow you perceive from a smart bulb is in reality red and green wavelengths that has nothing to do with the true yellow you see in a rainbow or coming off a prism. You see the same color yellow with both because they both trigger your types of (slightly wider band) cones to the same relative amount. (RGB yellow being FFFF00 is the same thing.)
The thing I’d be worried about with smart lights (though I haven’t done the research) is that a warm white approximating 2700k actually might have the blue LED turned on enough to affect our circadian rhythm, at least at brighter settings. Does anyone know?
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u/Darksirius 8d ago
I also have the Kasa smart plugs. I've had to replace two over time as their relays stopped working (sometimes lightly tapping them on a hard surface seems to unstick them). Otherwise they have been awesome.
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u/confusionmatrix 8d ago edited 8d ago
Same. They're the best I've tried so far. I have every room setup and I have guests access for friends when they come over, automation for sunset simulation, and full bright daylight for winter time.
Lightbulbs coming on work much better than alarm for me. Similarly they go red to off at night and I drift off to sleep and leave rooms as they go dark.
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u/The_15_Doc 8d ago
I use wiz too! After about 8pm I switch them to the “cozy” preset. Very relaxing.
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u/Dorkamundo 8d ago
Yea, I'm loving the Wiz application.
After the nightmare that was C by GE, this practically perfect.
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u/abouttogivebirth 8d ago
Do your Wiz bulbs dim below 25% ? I have Nedis and Wiz and the Wiz ones just bounce back up to 25% any time i try to lower them and the Nedis ones do not
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u/DancesWithBadgers 8d ago
The right colour red lights leave your night vision intact. That's important for some things.
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u/constructioncranes 8d ago
Who are these monsters that buy anything but sub 3000K bulbs?
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u/menasan 8d ago
i have some in my family. my mother in laws house is lit up bright blue like a hospital lobby. i absolutely hate it.
2700-3K is the only correct color.
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u/CDK5 8d ago
is lit up bright blue like a hospital lobby. i absolutely hate it.
After using incandescent bulbs, this is how I feel about all LED bulbs; they always feel phony.
Although I hear good things about the high CRI bulbs you have to special order, can't wait for those to come down in price.
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u/hucklebearer 8d ago
A church I've visited seemed to be running all 5000k bulbs. Maybe they had a problem with people nodding off?
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u/kissbythebrooke 8d ago
I have daytime lights and evening lights. In the daytime, I use super bright cooler colored (although not quite as cool as the weird blue daylight kind), and at about 7pm or whenever it starts getting dark outside, the bright ceiling lights go off and the dimmer, warm toned lamps come on. It makes the house feel energetic and inviting during the day and cozy and inviting during the evening.
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u/qqererer 8d ago
"I'm extremely anxious, always tired, don't sleep well and 6000k bulbs help wake me up."
Have you ever considered 2400k bulbs?
"But I can't see anything, and it makes me feel sleepy."
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u/SpunkyMcButtlove07 8d ago
This.
+10 if you put them on a timer that changes the light temperature gradually to resemble sundown.
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u/Professional-Duck964 8d ago
I am super intrigued. Where do you get these bulbs and do they work with any lamp? And you can control them from your phone?
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u/VanillaTortilla 8d ago
Just get a smart bulb and they can do this, and yes typically you can control them with an app.
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u/Professional-Duck964 8d ago
Thanks a bunch.
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u/sparky1337 8d ago
One caveat, they don’t play nice with dimmer switches. If you intend to put them in a fixture that has its own dedicated dimmer switch, you need a bulb that’s approved for it or it’ll flicker like crazy.
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u/VanillaTortilla 8d ago
The upside of that is that the bulb itself can be dimmed by the app. Not as convenient, but removes the need for the dimmer switch if you don't wanna get up.
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u/sparky1337 8d ago
True. But if a dimmer is already wired for the room it can be an issue.
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u/FieelChannel 8d ago
Literally any smart bulb.
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u/Professional-Duck964 8d ago
Any smart bulb can do this shade? I am specifically interested in sleep/nighttime-friendly lighting.
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u/frisbeesloth 8d ago
Those amber lights fuck me up. Headaches, running into shit, make my eyes feel fatigued really fast. Fuck amber lights.
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u/vegan_html_hacker 8d ago
I’m on the Philips hue, Aeotec MultiSensor and Home Assistant life. It even changes the lighting once my wife goes to sleep (the living room lights at night drive her crazy).
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u/OldKaleidoscope7 8d ago
I bought a smart bulb that fades to yellow and decreases intensity slowly every night. My sleep is better now
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u/Geruvah 8d ago
Do the same with your computer too. Whether it’s Flux or Nightshift, they both do a good job, depending on how much you want to cut the blue light.
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u/OldKaleidoscope7 8d ago
I will give it a try, I actually feel my eyes strained when playing at night
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u/streetsworth 8d ago
When I was in the Coast Guard, we used to have darken ship, which means all the lights outside the ship were off in the middle of the night. Inside, the lights were red and blue in order to preserve our night vision in pitch black darkness
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u/thedancingpanda2010 8d ago
I swapped all the lights in my house to smart bulbs and I have a light routine I named “darken ship.” My husband (he and I were both navy) thinks I’m a dork.
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u/point_naught 8d ago
why blue?
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u/ISTBU 8d ago
Makes it easier for the operators to see their screens over long periods of time with reduced glare and eye strain. Blue is usually in CIC/OPS where folks are doing a lot of staring at screens.
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u/lightsaber_lobotomy 8d ago
I started using them as well after reading some where, some years back about red lights helping to relax you. They do indeed work. I also switched to 15W soft light bulbs in my regular lamps, and its helped quite a lot, and far more comfortable lighting.
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u/Shakespearoquai 8d ago
Either the light isn’t very bright or you are an absolute knocked out sleeper not hearing those knocks on the door in the night
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u/JimFromSunnyvale 8d ago
We use red lights at night when we’re sailing to not disrupt your night night vision.
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u/iStillPlayPS3 8d ago
I use them camping. I put in LED red lights in the back of my SUV in the dome light. Still can see and what not but it doesn’t attract bugs and doesn’t kill my night vision
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u/Biasy 8d ago
I asked chatgpt about this (and the effects of different wavelenght on human eyes and brain) and he told me that while red is the “best” wavelenght, it is more common to use the next best, the yellow one (pretty obvious tbh)
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u/Rydernig 8d ago
Always liked yellow lightbulbs, more cozy. Almost had a fit when my mother installed a white light in my room, felt like I was in a mental asylum
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u/mealteamsixty 8d ago
Yes thank you! I hate how all the new efficient light bulbs are bright ass white. But everyone acts like I'm insane when I say that
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u/fairie_poison 8d ago edited 8d ago
gotta go by the Kelvin Temperature of the light . its posted on the box. OG incandescents were like 2700-2800K so look for bulbs with around that K value
Also the Hue system lets you change this throughout the day, even on a schedule to be brighter white in the day and warmer yellow during the night. https://lightingdesignstudio.co.uk/colour-temperature/
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u/PatliAtli 8d ago
Well if you buy white lights you get white lights. Get "warm white" bulbs
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u/psych0san 8d ago
Dang, I'm the opposite. Yellow ones make me feel depressed but white ones make me happy.
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u/xEman26x 8d ago
I find white is good for daytime especially when you’re trying to be productive and yellow is good for when you’re first waking up or winding down. I have a lightbulb you can use an app to change colors with so I alternate accordingly.
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u/GaucheAndOffKilter 8d ago
First time I’ve seen chatgpt used as a source. The future is now
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u/FrothyFrogFarts 8d ago
I asked chatgpt about this
This is the new, "my uncle's best friend's cousin who knows a guy saw a post on Facebook that said..."
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u/verklemptthrowaway 8d ago
I clip a red light to my scrubs when I have to go into a sleeping patient’s room. They almost never wake up it’s so much better than white light.
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u/MyHappyAcnt 8d ago
When I deployed and was sharing a tent with 7-9 other women I always used red light to prep in the morning or night because I could see so well without disturbing the night and shift workers.
It's also what I use when I'm camping!
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u/oursecondcoming 8d ago
At organized ayahuasca retreats, which are done at night, they often ask that you use a red light if you need to see around your area. This is because people that are still deep in the trip may have a higher sensitivity to light.
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u/happypolychaetes 8d ago
Same with headlamps, they have a red light setting that you can use at night so you don't wake up everybody else in the tent or nearby. Handy.
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u/verstohlen 8d ago
Good for submarines and cockpits at night, and Red Light Districts.
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u/TheDesktopNinja 8d ago
They're used in all Navy ships afaik.
In my few weeks at Great Lakes training in 2012 every night the main lights were turned off and the red lights went on.
I think every room always had lights on. Just red ones.
My understanding is that it was indeed to prepare you for life on a ship. (All the windows in the quarters were also opaque. Not sure why they bothered having windows at all tbh. But very little if any natural light when you were inside.
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u/GitEmSteveDave 8d ago
I had a house fire and am living in a friends basement. I bought a USB rechargable headlamp that has a red bulb and it's so great for when I need to go upstairs at night to use the bathroom. Bright enough I can see where I'm going, but not bright enough to bother anyone in the house and it's so much easier to get back to sleep.
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u/AJ7861 8d ago
If I turned a corner and that was my path, i'd be pretty disturbed to be fair.
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u/hermiona52 8d ago
I would definitely debate for a moment if I'm not becoming the main character of a horror movie in real life. Or even worse, a side character.
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u/seven3true 8d ago
Just don't say "I'll be right back." or, "what's the worst that could happen?"
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u/Apeshaft 8d ago
Very much so if you're looking through the periscope of a submarine at night looking for targets to attack.
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u/VerumJerum 8d ago
Particularly useful early in the morning or at night, when you want to be able to see what you're doing without blinding yourself or ruining your night vision.
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u/Scaramuccia 8d ago
If anyone wants to learn more about why a red light at night is safer than a white one, or why nature (and humans) needs darkness at night, I encourage you to check out r/darksky.
YSK a recent study on this subject demonstrated that light pollution increases by 10% globally every year! BUT we have the capacity to limit it unlike other forms of pollution that linger in our environment, light pollution can be solved instantly by changing light bulbs and turning off unnecessary lighting. Not many people are aware of this problem and the hardest part of solving it will be overcoming our fear of the dark.
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u/JasmineDragoon 8d ago
Pretty happy my local city has a replacement plan in effect to decrease light pollution and make stars visible again. Hope lots of other cities follow suit!
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u/Minerva567 8d ago
Mine is doing the exact opposite and I am PISSED
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u/ovr_the_cuckoos_nest 8d ago
Right?! My city just changed my neighborhood's streetlights. So bright. But at least there aren't any cockroaches within a 2 mile radius.
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u/WorldEndingSandwich 8d ago
What's funny is there's a road I take to work and I am driving it like 4:45 in the morning and the road has no lights at all down it and has trees surrounding it so it gets very little moonlight, with just the headlights from my car which I eventually need to replace the covers of because they're decently dim, I can still see pretty damn well. I honestly don't even notice that the street doesn't have lights down it until I get out of the area into a more populated area where the streets are fucking flooded with lights and I'm like.... WHY.
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u/nilesandstuff 8d ago
Most are tbh.
While LED lights are great for their energy efficiency, they're TERRIBLE for light pollution.
- They're brighter than the old fashion yellow/amber high pressure sodium (HPS) lights.
- They're efficient, so people and businesses are more likely to leave them on longer (and more of them)
- And worst of all, LEDs, especially shit ones , emit much cooler color lights. As in shorter wavelengths... Blue. The problem with that is that shorter wavelengths travel much further in the atmosphere through scattering (basically, shorter wavelength light ricochets off of molecules rather than being absorbed by them). AND animals tend to be more sensitive to shorter wavelengths of light, so they appear even brighter than they already are.
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u/AwkwardAnimator 8d ago
Ours requires it on new builds but never enforces it.
Seeing buildings with lights on the as a design feature... Bullshit.
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u/dolphindefender79 8d ago
It's actually not too hard to develop a light ordinance for your city. Check out International dark sky association! And if the city adopts your ordinance, you are known as a "dark lord".
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u/BitOfAZeldafan2 8d ago
My city mustn't have learned about this, because they changed all the street lights to a fluorescent blue/purple. Supposed to be "calming" and "reduce crime". Feels like im getting irradiated.
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u/point_naught 8d ago
yeah that's a defect with an early generation of the bulb, happening all over the place https://myq105.com/2021/10/04/why-are-some-street-lights-in-the-tampa-area-blue/
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u/Evening_Aside_4677 8d ago
Depending on where you are the blue lights are from a manufacturer defect and not actually installed on purpose FL I know is having this issue.
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u/OhDavidMyNacho 8d ago
Kansas also had the issue. But i actually really liked them. Kinda bummed when the one by my street was fixed.
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u/ekodees 8d ago
i did a presentation on this in physics class a few years ago and even i didnt know there were so many species affected by LIGHT in so many ways but its a serious and very real thing that apparently very few people know about.
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u/AwkwardAnimator 8d ago
Fuck floodlights specially white ones. Haven't seen more than a couple of bats this year, fucking neighbours.
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u/60N20 8d ago
well, for me, in my country, the hardest part of solving would be overcoming the fear of getting killed, robbed or even raped.
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u/GratefulGarlic 8d ago
"Something in the way"
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u/MaximumSubtlety 8d ago
I was like "what's this got to do with Nirvana?" and then I remembered The Batman and got it.
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u/Annoying-Ass_Insect 8d ago
Thursday, October 31st. The city streets are crowded for the holiday. Even with the rain. Hidden in the chaos is the element, waiting to strike like snakes. And I'm there too. Watching. 2 years of nights have turned me into a nocturnal animal. I must choose my targets carefully. It's a big city. I can't be everywhere. But they don't know where I am. We have a signal now, for when I'm needed. When that light hits the sky, it's not just a call- it's a warning. To them. Fear is a tool. They think I'm hiding in the shadows. But I AM the shadows. I wish I could say I'm making a difference, but I don't know. Murder, robberies, assault- 2 years later, they're all up. And now this. This city's eating itself. Maybe it can't be saved, but i have to try. PUSH MYSELF. These nights all roll together in a rush, Behind the mask. Sometimes in the morning i have to force myself to remember everything that happened.
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u/UncleWinstomder 8d ago
If I stay, there can be no party. I must be out there in the night, staying vigilant. Wherever a party needs to be saved, I’m there. Wherever there are masks, wherever there’s tomfoolery and joy, I’m there. But sometimes I’m not cause I’m out in the night, staying vigilant. Watching. Lurking. Running. Jumping. Hurtling. Sleeping. No, I can’t sleep. You sleep. I’m awake. I don’t sleep. I don’t blink. Am I bird? No. I’m a bat. I am Batman. Or am I? Yes, I am Batman. Happy Halloween.
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u/twentytwentysux 8d ago
I think anyone in the military has known red is best at night because it doesnt effect your night vision as much as any other color.
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u/Horsepipe 8d ago
Green light stimulates both the medium and long cone cells in your eyes so it's much easier to perceive fine details with green light under scotopic conditions. This is why night vision is usually green. Red light is good at night specifically because it's harder for human eyes to see it from a distance under scotopic conditions so you can somewhat see what you're doing in the dark without giving away your position to the enemy.
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u/LordShtark 8d ago
Some pilots use red light for the same reason pirates used patches. It makes it easier to switch to the dark. I think for the reasons you talked about here is why they don't use green. It's too stimulating and jarring going back and forth.
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u/ClassicManeuver 8d ago
Wait, what?? Tell me more about these patches. I figured a lot of pirates lost an eye to fighting or scurvy.
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u/BigDiccNiBBa69420 8d ago
Basically put patch in your light eye when you go bellow deck, then switch it to dark eye when you go to the top of the ship. Supposed to make your eyes adapt better to the light
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u/OhDavidMyNacho 8d ago edited 7d ago
You can do this at night if you ever wake up to pee. Keep one eye screwed shut, so one eye is open when you turn on the lights. Then, when done, turn off the lights and open both your eyes. It's a really cool way to see this effect in action, and is helpful for navigating corners at night.
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u/ClassicManeuver 8d ago
I had no idea this is why they are always depicted with a patched eye! TMYK…
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u/foospork 8d ago
I have a Cessna. The instruments are not backlit (self-illuminating) the way they are on a car. Instead, there are a couple of red bulbs attached to the ceiling a A-post that project light onto the instrument panel.
Red light does not interfere with your night vision. Using red lights in the cockpit make it easier for you to see what’s going on outside the plane. Surprisingly, you can see the instruments just fine once you’re eyes have adjusted to the dark. If I need extra light, I have a red flashlight I use.
Of course, if you’re a 737 cruising along at 32,000’ then this isn’t really the same issue.
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u/CantSitDownBHPP 8d ago
Surprised I had to scroll this far down to see this, loved walking the p-ways when everyone is asleep under the red lights.
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u/lvhockeytrish 8d ago
This is one of those "grinds my gears" / hills I will die on, and that is how absolutely rude it is when you're camping and someone blazing up the whole campground with bright white LED lights. They destroy your night vision and make it hard to see the stars. It's the visual equivalent of someone blaring house music. Red lights spare your night vision so you can see better. I think campgrounds need rules about white lights after quiet hours just like any other quiet hour regulation. That's it, that's the rant, thank you for your time.
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u/KermitMadMan 8d ago
i bet they make vampires feel right at home. Holy Creepiness, Batman
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u/Hike_it_Out52 8d ago
I'd think I fell Into the Upside Down if these came on during a walk.
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White LED streetlights can fuck right off. Bring back the orange ones.
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u/philote_ 8d ago
Headlights, too
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u/ISmokeyTheBear 8d ago
Had a car behind me light up my entire dashboard. Felt like I was about to get abducted by an alien
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u/C19shadow 8d ago
Fucking seriously every newer F-150 style truck can go fuck it's self
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u/RyanThaDude 8d ago
Yup. All four lights are brighter than a 1000 suns and shines right in your eye holes.
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u/tRfalcore 8d ago
You need four helicopter high beam search lights for all of your trips to Target
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u/Sloth-TheSlothful 8d ago
Bruh I had to pull over last week because an oncoming car nearly melted my retinas.
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u/MarvinLazer 8d ago
Yeah I'm hoping there's some legislation that's passed requiring cars in the US be fitted with blue light filters. I've had trucks blast me with their yellow high beams on country roads and they still don't nuke my night vision as badly as a late model Prius's regular headlights.
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u/SelloutRealBig 8d ago
While the blue color spectrum is an issue, the intensity/lumens of modern lights is just too high in general. Even if they were blood red the modern ones would still burn your eyes. They need to dial back the power of them as well as the color shift. Good luck enforcing vehicle laws in America though. They barely enforce shit when it comes to that.
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u/RyanThaDude 8d ago
I have seen some of the LED street lamps change their color temperature to a warmer color later at night, but yeah, most run closer to 6000k.
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u/_VariolaVera_ 8d ago
Those lights are the some of the worst contributors towards light pollution. LED isn’t perfect for every setting but they are much cleaner operate at that kind of scale.
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u/-transcendent- 8d ago
All for parabolic reflector on the rear. If you shine directly into my car you deserve to get blinded too.
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u/NuklearFerret 8d ago
Hilo, Hawaii has yellow street lights so that the light doesn’t interfere with the telescopes on Mauna Kea.
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u/afterschoolsept25 8d ago
i live next to old neighborhoods w sodium vapor lamps and id say the light pollution near them is the same in neighborhoods w newer lights
the solution isnt to change to a enviromentally worse light, its to change the existing leds to be warmer, to implement a different design so light doesnt escape upwards, and to possibly install motion-activated sensors so the lights only turn on when someone is near them
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u/ovgcguy 8d ago edited 8d ago
Based on how many neighbors have 5500k night lights, I'm assuming not many people understand color temperature.
2700k is good for night and the ONLY acceptable color for outdoor lights that face neighbors or public spaces.
5000-6000k should NEVER be used for general neighborhood outdoor night lighting unless you're an inconsiderate ass.
/publicserviceannouncement
Edit - please see this pic if you are unfamiliar with Color Temp https://imgur.com/a/itVZfO7
Temp is independent of wattage or lumens, and thus is an independent variable that is important to get right based on the application of a light. A you can see, 2000-2700k is much more pleasant night light than 4000+. Blue light will actually tell your brain its daytime and inhibit sleep.
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u/I_Heart_Astronomy 8d ago
In my area, the problem seems to come from businesses. They will light up their parking lot with insanely bright 5500k wall packs that produce glare for drivers at a night, and light up the sky.
No business should have bright lights illuminating their parking lot all night long. If you want lighting for security, it should be motion activated only.
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u/SelloutRealBig 8d ago
The same people also complain about getting bad sleep or having headaches (which LEDs can cause due to how they flicker).
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u/Felzlek 8d ago
A few of my neighbors all got 'security' lights around the same time. I'm not sure why because I'm not aware of any crime in our area, but now my front yard is essentially unenjoyable at night. The lights are so sensitive to movement it seems like they come on if a leaf blows by and they're so stupidly bright and 6000k.
I used to like sitting outside, enjoying the cool air, and watching the stars. Now I close my blinds to avoid being blinded randomly.
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u/SassiesSoiledPanties 8d ago
Stranger Things season 5 is looking good
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u/comrade_batman 8d ago
You can see that grandfather clock at the side of the road too?
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u/ScrotumLeather 8d ago
I always thought it's for attracting hookers.
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u/JustPlat 8d ago
It doesn't attract them, it just let's you know they're there. Hooker bats?
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u/Rewrite06 8d ago
Raining blood, from a lacerated sky!!
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u/Maximum-Ad6654 8d ago
Bleeding its horror Creating my structure Now I shall REIGN IN BLOOD
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u/Beautiful_Ad_3349 8d ago
No it’s just a good lighting for a serial killer
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u/_its_ak 8d ago
You won't see the blood splashing
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u/GozerDGozerian 8d ago
I feel like that would kinda hamper the experience for a serial killer. The blood splashing is probably one of their favorite parts!
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u/theclaw37 8d ago
Blood is red , which means it reflects red wavelengths. So actually blood would be one of the only things you COULD see.
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u/Spiderpiggie 8d ago
Its awfully kind of the city to set the tone at least. If I'm going to get murdered, it better be in spectacular fashion and with proper ambiance.
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u/Not_Leopard_Seal 8d ago
Not only with bats, but other nocturnal animals as well.
Especially small animals that are active at night are often scared by white light and either flee or freeze, depending on the induced stress level and other factors, such as personality.
We used red light in Madagascar to observe two sympatric living nocturnal mouse lemur species on an artificial feeding platform, to look at their behaviour, see how much time they'd spend on it and to decide if one was braver or more risk prone than the other.
They weren't.
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u/IDropFatLogs 8d ago
" artificial feeding platform " I am picturing a wooden post with a piece of plywood on top.
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u/JJ5Gaming 8d ago
my first thought seeing this was THE SITE IS EXPERIENCING MUTLIPLE EUCLID AND KETER LEVEL CONTAINMENT BREACHES-
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u/ralphvonwauwau 8d ago
Red lights also don't screw up human night vision, so you aren't night blind the second you wander off the path. Good job there.
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u/twoknives 8d ago
Its actually for not attracting as many insects so as to not alter the bats behavior if I remember correctly.
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