r/fuckcars Jan 06 '22 Silver Helpful Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy Ally Endorsed by Big Bike

Please read this if you're new to this sub Welcome to /r/Fuckcars

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Updated: April 6, 2022

Welcome to /r/fuckcars. It's safe to say that we're strongly dissatisfied with cars and car-dominated urban design. If that's you, then we share in your frustration. Some, or perhaps many of us, still have cars but abhor our dependence on them for many reasons.

There are nuances to the /r/fuckcars discussion that you should be aware of, generally:

In any case, please observe the community rules and keep the discussion on-topic.

The Problem - What's the problem with cars?

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This is the fundamental question of this sub, isn't it?

  • Pollution -- Cars are responsible for a significant amount of global and local pollution (microplastic waste, brake dust, embodiment emissions, tailpipe emissions, and noise pollution). Electric cars eliminate tailpipe emissions, but the other pollution-related problems largely remain.
  • Infrastructure (Costs. An Unsustainable Pattern of Development) -- Cars create an unwanted economic burden on their communities. The infrastructure for cars is expensive to maintain and the maintenance burden for local communities is expected to increase with the adoption of more electric and (someday) fully self-driving cars. This is partly due to the increased weight of the vehicles and also the increased traffic of autonomous vehicles.
  • Infrastructure (Land Usage & Induced Demand) -- Cities allocate a vast amount of space to cars. This is space that could be used more effectively for other things such as parks, schools, businesses, homes, and so on. We miss out on these things and are forced to pile on additional sprawl when we build vast parking lots and widen roads and highways. This creates part of what is called induced demand. This effect means that the more capacity for cars we add, the more cars we'll get, and then the more capacity we'll need to add.
  • Independence and Community Access -- Cars are not accessible to everyone. Simply put, many people either can't drive or don't want to drive. Car-centric city planning is an obstacle for these groups, to name a few: children and teenagers, parents who must chauffeur children to and from all forms of childhood activities, people who can't afford a car, and many other people who are unable to drive. Imagine the challenge of giving up your car in the late stages of your life. In car-centric areas, you face a great loss of independence.
  • Safety -- Cars are dangerous to both occupants and non-occupants, but especially the non-occupants. As time goes on cars admittedly become better at protecting the people inside them, but they remain hazardous to the people not inside them. For people walking, riding, or otherwise trying to exercise some form of car-free liberty cars are a constant threat. In car-centric areas, streets and roads are optimized to move cars fast and efficiently rather than protect other road users and pedestrians.
  • Social Isolation -- A combination of the issues above produces the additional effect of social isolation. There are fewer opportunities for serendipitous interactions with other members of the public. Although there may be many people sharing the road with you (a public space), there are some obvious limitations to the quality of interaction one can have through metal, glass, and plastic boxes.

👋 Local Action - How to Fix Your City

IMPORTANT: This is a solvable problem. Progress can happen and does happen. It comes incrementally and with the help of voices just like yours. Don't limit yourself to memes and Reddit -- although, raising awareness online does help.

Check out this perspective from a City Council Member: Here's How to Fix Your City

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A Not-So-Quick Note for Car Hobbyists and Passionate Drivers

This can be a contentious issue at times. The sub's name is /r/fuckcars, which can cause some feelings of conflict and alienation for people who see the problems of too many cars while still being passionate about them. I'll quote the community summary.

Discussion about the harmful effects of car dominance on communities, environment, safety, and public health. Aspiration towards more sustainable and effective alternatives like mass transit and improved pedestrian and cycling infrastructure.

Your voice is still welcome here. Consider the benefits of getting bored, stressed, unskilled, or inattentive drivers off the road. That improves your safety and reduces congestion. Additionally, check out these posts from others on this sub:

Discord

There is an unofficial Discord server aggregating related discussions from the low-car/no-car/fuckcars community. Although it is endorsed by the /r/fuckcars mods, please keep in mind that it's not an official /r/fuckcars community Discord server.

Join Link: https://discord.gg/2QDyupzBRW

Helpful Resources

If you've just joined this sub and want to learn more about the issues behind car-centric urban design there are a great number of resources you can access. This list is by no means exhaustive, so please feel free to add your more helpful resources in the comments.

👉 Moved to the wiki

Shameless Plugs for Community Building

happy to add more links related to community building here

👉 Contribute to the Safety Data Thread

Change Logging

April 7, 2022 - Fix markdown for compatibility. Thank you /u/konsyr

April 6, 2022 - Reorder sections (Thank you, /u/Monseiur_Triporteur and /u/PilferingTeeth). Add plug for data/supporting info request. Link to Strong Towns growth example.

April 3, 2022 - Add note for car hobbyists

April 2, 2022 - Add nuance notes and redirect readers to resources area of the wiki.

March 28th, 2022 - Grammatical pass, more changes to follow.

February 9th, 2022 - Adding links that redirect readers from this post into community-maintained wiki resources, thank /u/javasgifted and /u/Monsiuer_Triporteur

January 20th, 2022 - Added the Goodreads list and seeded the FAQ section. Thank you /u/javasgifted, and /u/kzy192

January 9th, 2022 - I'm updating this onboarding message with feedback from the mods and the community. Thank you, all, for keeping the discussion civil and contributing additional resources.

Cheers. Stay safe out there.


r/fuckcars 28d ago Silver Gold

Rant I'm a suburb kid and I want out (rant)

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I'm turning 16 this month and I live in a (barely) Chicago suburb. It's miserable. I spent most of my life in a different Chicago suburb a bit closer to the city, and it was bearable. I had the bare minimum there: sidewalks and safe crosswalks. A year ago my parents decided to move to a typical 99% white, 100% car dependent suburb way outside of Chicago. Some might even use the word "exurb" to describe it. I hate it here. Sidewalks are non existent, and if they exist, they're useless. Riding a bike is suicidal.

Now, for contrast, my parents are Polish and I lived in Kraków when I was little. Every year to this day, I go back there and spend my entire summer break there. I've only recently come to realize why I've always loved it so much there: it's because of walkability. When I went to school there my mom would always walk me. Then, coming there at the ages of about 7-10 I was allowed to play outside in the neighborhood all day. At about 11-13 I was allowed to take the bus to go to the mall and the movie theater, as long as I told my grandparents where I was going.

Now, as a 15 year old, it was one of the best experiences of my life. I flew from Chicago to Kraków alone, then lived with my grandparents for 2 1/2 months enjoying the joys of public transport and walkable cities. All I did was wake up in the morning, tell my grandparents I'm leaving, and fuck off for the rest of the day hanging out with friends. We would walk around and to normal teenager shit, and also take the bus and tram and hang out around different parts of the city.

Now I'm back in my suburb, and I don't have anywhere near the same level of freedom as I used to.

Why?

The answer is quite clear: car dependent infrastructure. My entire experience in Poland is exactly the childhood many Americans look back on and then talk about how technology ruined it. The problem isn't technology, but cars. In a suburb like mine, every 16 year old kid is super excited to get their license. It's a big deal for teenagers, because it gives the same exact freedom that a walkable city and public transport would give. But unfortunately people here don't realize that.

I just wish I could live out my childhood normally in a walkable city instead of a suburb. I can't wait to be able to drive, and yes, I will be driving, but only because I have to. I have to drive so I can experience some of the freedom I experienced this summer, so I can keep my sanity.

Anyways, I'm planning on moving back to Kraków as soon as I can. I think my parents leaving was a mistake. My entire extended family as well as some of my best friends live in Kraków, and someday my kids will live there too and have a normal childhood.

Sorry for the rant


r/fuckcars 8h ago Wholesome

Arrogance of space Fuck boats?

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r/fuckcars 6h ago

Positive Post I’m dating a girl who grew up in a car-dependent suburb … safe to say I’m slowly but surely persuading her to use her car less often when it comes to shorter distances 😈

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r/fuckcars 14h ago

This is why I hate cars Parents just accept it as normal to give up their personal lives just to be their kids' chauffeur

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r/fuckcars 9h ago Helpful

Question/Discussion Are SUV-replacement cargo bikes viable?

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r/fuckcars 21h ago Silver All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy Narwhal Salute

Satire Height of folly (by Jen Sorensen)

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r/fuckcars 3h ago

Other Let’s talk about what a “safe neighborhood” really looks like…

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r/fuckcars 10h ago

Positive Post New protected bike lanes just installed in my neighborhood. Still more car-centric than I'd like but it's an improvement!

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r/fuckcars 9h ago

Positive Post Winter cousin of a grassy tram

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r/fuckcars 17h ago

Solutions to car domination This can’t be healthy for mental health.

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r/fuckcars 14h ago

Before/After Queen Square, Bristol, England: 1992 vs 2022

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r/fuckcars 9h ago

Carbrain Absolute peak carbrain

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r/fuckcars 11h ago

This is why I hate cars Car drivers are the worse

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r/fuckcars 11h ago

Question/Discussion From a pedestrians pov I can understand, but how much easier would it be if we just took away the cars

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r/fuckcars 12h ago

Satire The tutorials American civil engineers watch before creating our cities

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r/fuckcars 5h ago

Rant If bus service sucks, then don't be surprised when people drive

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Rode the bus in San Antonio today to see if it was a good alternative to driving. In a car, it takes about 30min one way to get to work. Woke up early to catch the bus to work and it wasn't that bad. Found the right bus stop and got off at the right stop. Transferred to the next bus which came just few minutes later. Got to my next stop and walked to work. Time from home to work about 1hr 10min. Going home was not as smooth. First bus was 15 minutes late. Then the it got caught in traffic since it shares the same lanes as all the other cars. I noticed google maps showed I was going to be late for the next bus. Sure enough missed it. Luckily buses run every 30min! Then when I got to the transfer spot, I saw the bus stop sign didn't show the bus route I needed. So I crossed the intersection and waited 15 min for next bus. When I finally got home it was 2hrs later! So I can spend 3hrs to get to work and back and save less than $3 in gas and maintenance or drive for one hour. And cities wonder why more people don't use buses unless they absolutely have to.


r/fuckcars 15h ago

This is why I hate cars This is why we Americas have so many health problems.

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r/fuckcars 14h ago

Infrastructure porn >When Zootopia has better planning than 90% of North American cities

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r/fuckcars 23h ago

Meme If only there was some way more of them could carpool together in a larger vehicle to travel across the country... oh wait.

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r/fuckcars 7h ago

Solutions to car domination Drivers surprised to find their cars vandalised after parking on a sidewalk

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r/fuckcars 7h ago

Carbrain car brain at its finest

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r/fuckcars 11h ago

Meta I guess one could say that I don't like cars

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r/fuckcars 11h ago

Stickers Spotted in the wild

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Essen, Germany


r/fuckcars 40m ago

Carbrain Let’s push the snow away for cars and salt the road to avoid invisible ice so there’s no accident :) pedestrians can F off tho

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r/fuckcars 8h ago

Activism Email zoningboard@pittsburghpa.gov & erika.strassburger@pittsburghpa.gov tell them you SUPPORT bike lanes and high density apartment buildings

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r/fuckcars 8h ago

Meme Thanks Texas 😊

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