r/comicbooks Oct 07 '22

New Black Panther 2 Dora Milaje Star Confirms Her Character Is Queer Movie/TV

https://screenrant.com/black-panther-2-michaela-coel-character-aneka-queer/
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u/gangler52 Oct 07 '22

We talking queer queer, or "2 second background kiss that gets cut from foreign releases followed by live slug reaction" queer?

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u/beingtwiceasnice Oct 07 '22

She basically eats pussy the whole movie. It's legit.

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u/axlkomix Oct 07 '22

"Queer," from my understanding, could be almost anything, from the slightest bit of curiosity all the way to the most fabulous queen - it's just the catchall for everything we haven't put an unneeded categorizing label onto yet.

You want to make waves in terms of announcing inclusionary sexuality of characters? Make a news story about all of things Namor has fucked.

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u/gangler52 Oct 07 '22

Real life queerness is a broad spectrum, but Disney tends to heavily market "queer" characters that are only established to be queer in a blink and you miss it moment.

Large corporate entities wanting to reap all the rewards without taking any risks or putting any effort in are a little different from real life queer people maybe not being as "Loud and Proud" as some of their peers.

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u/Nightingdale099 Oct 07 '22

Same gender bodyguard unit being queer is almost a trope , I'd be more surprised if it came out all of them are straight.

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u/hereforfun976 Oct 07 '22

I mean cool but could you shoehorn in press any more lazily

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u/releasethetides Grant Morrison Oct 07 '22

so weird that a bunch of homophobic people who have no history with this sub show up only to comment on stuff like this. definitely normal behavior.

anyway to be explicit the problem with this is that Disney is cashing in on queer $ for representation that barely exists in the actual film. if it can be removed for a foreign release it is functionally worthless

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u/DJMOONPICKLES69 Oct 07 '22

Is this gonna come up in battle?

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u/epicazeroth Oct 07 '22

Probably in the same scene where Disney separates all the women to fight each other.

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u/Kill_Welly Agencies Committing Radical Overreach Naming Your Many Societies Oct 07 '22

why do you ask?

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u/AyBruhBee Oct 07 '22

Oh god i hope this isnt the excuse they use for the "Guilt trip" part of Disneys new marketing strategies

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u/OmgOgan Oct 07 '22

spoiler alert

it will be

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u/AdamScoot Oct 07 '22

Ohhh, another "Marvel's First LGBT character"!

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u/Fit_East_3081 Oct 07 '22

I remember when her character was first shown in civil war, I saw an article that was complaining that she could’ve been MCU’s first lgbt representation but they decided to not show her being a lesbian even though her character was in the comics

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u/Blktom Oct 07 '22

I knew this was going to happen from the title Wakanda Forever title, anyone remember the comic, it turned into a love story!

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u/gothcrab Black Canary Oct 07 '22

Heard that before

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u/Kafkabest Oct 07 '22

Why are there so many dorks in here that are like "What does it add to fighting" to a movie with like 2 trailers that are about fucking grief and shit. Movies can have like themes and characters can have inner lives beyond who punches best.

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u/CrazedHarmony Oct 07 '22

So a member of the King's although he is technically dead elite guard that also technically functions as a pool of potential wives in the matter of an unmarried king at least in the comics is queer? And it matters why? What does it add to the fighting? Why does it matter to the plot? Is her being queer important? Does it save Wakanda from the South American Atlantians?

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u/Kill_Welly Agencies Committing Radical Overreach Naming Your Many Societies Oct 07 '22

the whole "Dora milajae are all concubines" is super weird and hasn't been true in the comics in decades and never has in the movies.

And "queer characters can only exist if it Matters To The Plot ™" is just an excuse to complain about queer characters existing at all.

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u/Kill_Welly Agencies Committing Radical Overreach Naming Your Many Societies Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

it's not a movie where the character's sexual identity matters to the plot

Let's take a look at this. In how many Marvel Studios movies is there a character whose sexual orientation is important to the plot?

  • Iron Man: Tony Stark's attraction to women and, eventually, his romance with Pepper Potts is important in all three movies.

  • The Incredible Hulk: Bruce Banner's love interest Betty is a central character.

  • Thor: In the first and second Thor movies, as well as in Love and Thunder, Thor's relationship with Jane Foster is a central plot element. Ragnarok, interestingly, doesn't get into any romance plots (though Bruce's attraction to Natasha has a minor significance at one point).

  • Captain America: Steve Rogers being straight and attracted to Peggy Carter is central in The First Avenger. Winter Soldier calls back to this with a much older Peggy, and in Civil War, he starts to develop a relationship with Sharon, though it's not an important plot thread.

  • The Avengers: Tony Stark's relationship with Pepper is presented front and center in an early scene, though it's not important later in the movie. Age of Ultron showcases Hawkeye's wife and a budding relationship between Natasha and Bruce. Infinity War and Endgame once again highlight Tony's relationship with Pepper, Steve's with Peggy, Peter Quill and Gamora's, and Wanda and Vision's, at least off the top of my head.

  • Guardians of the Galaxy: Peter Quill's early womanizing and his relationship with Gamora are plot elements. Drax's dead wife and child are also central to his characterization and come up several times. In Volume 2, both remain important.

  • Ant-Man: Scott Lang's ex-wife and his relationship with Hope are both important, and in the sequel, Hank and Janet's relationship is highlighted as well.

  • Spider-Man: Peter's crush on Liz and then his relationship with MJ are central aspects to Homecoming and the latter two movies, respectively.

  • Black Panther: T'Challa is obviously attracted to Nakia early on and forms a relationship with her. Killmonger's callous disregard for his own girlfriend is also a meaningful aspect of his characterization.

  • Doctor Strange: Strange's relationship with his girlfriend, then ex, whose name escapes me at the moment is important to his early characterization in the first movie, and Multiverse of Madness draws on it even now that they're no longer dating.

  • Captain Marvel: An outlier among Marvel Studios productions for having no love interest for the protagonist or most supporting characters. >! The Skrull Talos does have a wife and child, though.!<

  • Black Widow: No romance for the lead, but her adoptive "parents" and their relationship is a significant plot development in the latter half of the movie.

  • Eternals: Sersi and Ikaris and then Sersi and Dane are relationships that inform the characters of all three and the plot of the movie. Phastos's husband is also important to his story over the course of his history, marking the first instance of such a relationship that isn't between a man and woman.

  • Shang-Chi: Another outlier for not including a romance for the protagonist, but the heterosexual relationship between his parents is a driving force behind the plot.

And just because I feel like I'm on a roll, let's get into the series as well.

  • Wandavision: Wanda and Vision's relationship is the central aspect of the series, as the title suggests.

  • Falcon & The Winter Soldier: No major love interests, actually!

  • Loki: Though Loki's bisexuality is indicated, it's not really significant to the plot. Not a whole lot of romance is happening at the TVA, I suppose.

  • Hawkeye: Clint's wife and family is a driving force for his character.

  • Moon Knight: Marc Spector's relationship with his wife/ex/it's complicated brings her in as an important supporting character for most of the series.

  • Ms. Marvel: Kamala's attraction to Kamran (and Bruno's likely attraction to Kamala) informs the characterization and plot, especially the former.

  • She-Hulk: Jen's travails on dating apps are a significant portion of a couple episodes and end up being the crux of one of the legal cases she's involved with.

So, of all of them, the only ones I think could be fairly said to have no characters whose sexual orientation is plot relevant are Thor: Ragnarok and Captain Marvel, as well as Loki and Falcon & Winter Soldier in the series. That's 2/7 series and 2/29 movies. So as far as this being a Marvel movie, it's extremely likely that characters' sexual orientation will be important to the plot.

Edit: Okay, I forgot that Loki does actually have a meaningful "romantic"(?) plot thread, make it 1/7 series.

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u/Blktom Oct 07 '22

It matters of you interrupt a good fight scene to shoehorn a love scene on its place!

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u/BigEffinZed Oct 07 '22

not suprising, since I had to look her up because I wasn't sure she was a man or not.

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u/Weirdguy215 Oct 07 '22

We. Don't. Care. Is the movie good?....

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u/epicazeroth Oct 07 '22

Well it’s not out yet so they can’t exactly tell you that.

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u/lousycesspool Oct 07 '22

but since this is a marketing talking point odds are high it's not good and will perform poorly all because (racist) homophobes

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u/JS19982022 Oct 23 '22

bro the first Black Panther movie made a shitjillion dollars, this new movie could literally be 3 hours of a turd landing in a toilet and it’s still making an unholy amount of money

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u/NosePick2-6 Oct 07 '22

Hahaha I mean of course anymore

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u/mysakbm Oct 07 '22

Why is that important?

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u/epicazeroth Oct 07 '22

Queer for how long? We talking “actually does gay shit on screen” or “that woman in Lightyear”?

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u/DiscordianStooge Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

This is like the 3rd queer MCU character. We know Tony Stark, Peter Parker, Hawkeye, Thor, Bruce Banner, Peter Quill and Gamora are all straight. Groot is probably groot, which is, of course, the G in LBGTQ+.

Edit: Doctor Strange is also straight, weirdly enough.

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u/CoolArtFromSpace Oct 07 '22

imagine being this wrong

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u/MeanGreenSox Oct 07 '22

I can't stifle my yawn.

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u/DiscordianStooge Oct 07 '22

it’s not pertinent for any character in any story line.

A ton of comic book superheroes have love interests. It's a driving force for Spider-Man and Daredevil just off the top of my head.

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u/DJMOONPICKLES69 Oct 07 '22

Yeah but this is not Spider-Man or daredevil. This is a rando in a sequel

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u/DiscordianStooge Oct 07 '22

You said "not pertinent for any character in any story line." I was disagreeing with that statement.

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u/Mass2424 Oct 07 '22

Why does this person look like a fish?

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u/Fuscular_Dobber Oct 07 '22

Amazing! Truly amazing news! I definitely care!!

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u/YodaFette Oct 07 '22

What is so strange about this character?

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u/Kill_Welly Agencies Committing Radical Overreach Naming Your Many Societies Oct 07 '22

Do you have the same complaint about all the straight people in action movies?

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u/thewdfthr Oct 07 '22

Honestly I was on the fence about this movie but now I think me and my wife's boyfriend will be attending!

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u/aussiekinga Invincible Oct 07 '22

Yeah, because comics, especially Black Panther, are never political

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u/Kill_Welly Agencies Committing Radical Overreach Naming Your Many Societies Oct 07 '22

-queer people when fifty random jackasses show up to complain whenever a queer person is high profile in any way

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u/G_Deak Moon Knight Oct 07 '22

Bro how is it political to be gay 😂