r/classicwow Oct 06 '22

Wotlk classic is more buggy than private servers and we pay 15 bucks a month for this garbage Discussion

thats all I wanted to say

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u/Ok_Grapefruit5405 Oct 06 '22

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u/skyst Oct 06 '22

I hope they never fix this, I laugh every time.

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u/Croakie89 Oct 06 '22

Yeah this is one of the silly bugs I don’t mind, or when I take a flight path and I swim to my destination instead. But man fuck doing occulus and mounting a drake hard disconnects me and then ports me to dal or a random graveyard

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u/sherbert-nipple Oct 06 '22

This happens to me with the Aces high daily

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u/average-mk4 Oct 06 '22

HOLY SHIT

This is good, great even

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u/shapookya Oct 06 '22

It’s even better a few seconds after that gif. He does a fast paced walking animation while breathing his fire in a line on the ground

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u/Apap0 Oct 06 '22

This shit gives such pservers wibes.

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u/Harrysaches69 Oct 08 '22

I love this bug. It made the game better

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u/A_e_t_h_a Oct 06 '22

ghoul in arena is a disaster, gets stuck in everything, frequently forgets it exists and stops doing things

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u/Ozok123 Oct 06 '22

Mage pet ai has a single brain cell. Water ele uses that brain cell when you turn every single of your keybinds into a macro with /petattack but mirror images struggle because they have to share the braincell.

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u/qp0n Oct 07 '22

My favorite mage bug is conjuring a mana gem for 0 mana, drinking to full, then suddenly finding out the mana cost was magically added to your next spell.

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u/apo_death Oct 06 '22

And his aggressive stance is a mess too His aggro range is like 200yards, he attacks anything in sight...

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u/GibbyG1100 Oct 06 '22

Yea the only way i can play with my ghoul is to put him on passive and use petattack macros bound to everything.

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u/NamesILoveNames Oct 06 '22

We went from rose tinted glasses for classic to rose tinted glasses for private servers.

Maybe it's just me but private servers were a fucking mess if played long enough to actually see bugs.

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u/tadashi4 Oct 06 '22

i never had to play for very long before finding bugs

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u/tulky3000 Oct 06 '22

Yep, even the ”best” private servers had tons of bugs and things that didn’t work.

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u/LiveRuido Oct 06 '22

I avoided the "King of the Foulweed" quest on every toon in Ashenvale because I was so used to it being bugged on pserver that I forgot it was probably fixed in official classic.

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u/thatdudejtru Oct 06 '22

Warrior charge pathing putting you NEXT to the mob, not in front or behind; pserver excellence.

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u/tmb-- Oct 07 '22

Being able to Backstab on the side (aka sidestabbing) on every private server because of horrible Client -> Server coding.

It was so ingrained in pservers that bad Rogues assumed sidestabbing was going to be in Classic and were spamming forums demanding it.

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u/Kynario Oct 06 '22

So many quests never worked, especially vehicle quests or quests which had complex scripts.

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u/RetroBlack57 Oct 06 '22

Asking, "Is random quest bugged?" In global.

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u/seabutcher Oct 06 '22

We have that in Classic from people who don't read quest text.

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u/edwardsamson Oct 06 '22

Or from actual bugged quests. The TBC quest where you have to beat Sal'Salabim til he talks had not one but TWO bugs for the entirety of TBC Classic. One of the bugs was so bad it rendered the quest completely undoable until server reset. And IIRC that was part of a major quest line.

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u/Professional_Bed_431 Oct 06 '22

In like 2014 sure, nowadays though? Even stock ass AzerothCore is shockingly functional.

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u/xplicit_mike Oct 06 '22

None so bad as classic wrath's Battle for Undercity lmao

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u/Over-Arrival-9874 Oct 06 '22

Yep, because modern client has a phasing tech that went largely untested because there weren’t enough players to stress it in the beta.

If private servers had the same stack they would explode.

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u/xplicit_mike Oct 06 '22

Yes they would. Doesn't change the fact that,

modern client has a phasing tech that went largely untested because there weren’t enough players to stress it in the beta.

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u/Over-Arrival-9874 Oct 06 '22

That gotcha that you think you have is really stupid. This is a situation that not a single video game company would pick up. It is so circumstantial and unexpected that nobody would even know to test for it.

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u/xplicit_mike Oct 06 '22

"Hey do you think layering might break group quests or party wide/zone wide buffs at all? Should we test it?"

"Nah it's fine, just ship it."

"Sounds good!"

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u/kdrake07 Oct 06 '22

I swear gamers are the worst

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u/IOnlyLieWhenITalk Oct 06 '22

Every gamer is an expert in IT infrastructure and software engineering didn't you know that?

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u/Darthmalak3347 Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

considering the amount of people to test something on the beta is like maybe 1/1000th the size of the current playerbase. yeah its easy to miss something breaking that requires a specific large number of players to do that thing all at once, and even with it broken, theres no way to fix it without re writing modern code entirely for a specific instance. which they are trying to implement a real fix, but its such a multi layered issue that "just fix it 3hed" doesn't work. They don't have a way to spool up 1000 layers of the same instance situation in office probably because it probably requires real players to be there, and not mass packet sends like a stress test would do.

also servers need to have 15k people at once or theyre dead. meanwhile wrath had like 1000 players per faction per server if it was balanced. so it could never get tested in wrath either, AND IT STILL BROKE THEN, WITH LESS PLAYERS. I remember getting locked out and fucked numerous times and having to contact a GM to complete the quest for me.

the undercity portion sucks anyway. the cool part is when saurfang gets the soul sucked out of him.

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u/dayynawhite Oct 07 '22

Gamer District WotLK hands down beats classic wotlk in terms of bugs.

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u/kdrake07 Oct 06 '22

Warrior charge didn’t work right on 90% of the p servers I played on

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u/Vandrel Oct 06 '22

On the biggest wotlk private server execute sometimes just doesn't do damage. Imagine the shitstorm Classic would have if a bug like that went unfixed for years.

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u/vagabundomg Oct 06 '22

Remember having characters get stuck on a FP and having to wait for a GM to come back from a weekend trip to get it unstuck, fun times

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u/tzeriel Oct 06 '22

Private servers are 10x worse than this. Not only buggy, but wormy as fuck as well with people in power handing out power.

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u/Finalshock Oct 06 '22

People are insane and the only person who’d have this take is someone that never played pservers. There are quite a few bugs in classic wotlk, but even the best pserver was hot fucking garbage in comparison.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '22 edited 17d ago

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '22

my fav was some admin ranting about how much he hated black people in server messages and anyone who called him out in global got an ip ban

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u/tzeriel Oct 06 '22

Yikes

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '22

ya private servers were shit shows idk how anyone can pretend they are better than blizzards servers

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u/kdrake07 Oct 06 '22

Yeah OP is clueless.

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u/JungleDemon3 Oct 06 '22

Very often I would spend half an hour trying to figure out how to do a quest until finding out the quest is bugged an cannot be completed.

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u/VTWAX_ONLY_INVESTOR Oct 06 '22

It's not even the bugs. It's the fact that they were always led by a shady group of admins boosting their own friends, banning people for whatever reason and then pulling the plug and seeing the entire server deleted on a random Tuesday. Never again.

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u/beached89 Oct 06 '22

You arent wrong. I have played private servers ever since Cata was released. This iteration has less bugs than wow private servers. And funny enough, all the bugs it does have, are not issues on private servers. Wintergrasp being completely unplayable lag shit show for one example.

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u/GTFOH-DOT-COM-INC Oct 06 '22

Plus they crash all the time, reset raids/dungeons when thisbhappens, etc

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u/Tsobaphomet Oct 06 '22

They can get away with it when they are run out of some guy's basement for free.

Blizzard is a multi-billion dollar company charging $15/month for it while also selling $80 special packs with store mounts and pets. Not to mention charging money for every other service imaginable.

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u/maricatu Oct 06 '22

I was just playing on the most popular pserver before wrath classic launch. It is not as buggy, not even remotely close

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u/Vandrel Oct 06 '22

There are 10,450 WotLK bugs on their bug tracker right now. Just because you don't remember encountering the bugs personally doesn't mean it's not absolutely full of them.

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u/wowclassictbc Oct 06 '22

we pay 15 bucks a month for this garbage

You might want to explain why are you still doing this though.

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u/nomisnator Oct 06 '22

A heroin addict isn’t gonna stop just cause the heroin is of a lesser quality than he hopes for

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u/mcon1985 Oct 06 '22

Stringer Bell running Blizz now

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u/Vorenos Oct 06 '22

Got that WMD here!

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u/mcon1985 Oct 06 '22

Paaaaaaaaaaandemic

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u/Behold_dog Oct 06 '22

Right chere, right chere

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u/zissou149 Oct 06 '22

Shit is weak, but, ya know, shit is weak all over. The thing is, no matter what we call warcraft, it's gonna get sold. Shit is strong, we gonna sell it; shit is weak, we gonna sell twice as much. You know why? 'Cause a fiend, he gonna chase that shit no matter what. It's crazy, you know. We do worse, and we get paid more. The private servers do better, and it don't mean no nevermind.

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u/tekhnomancer Oct 06 '22

That is god damn accurate.

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u/Boneheadmass Oct 06 '22

Eyy yo shut that door

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u/mcon1985 Oct 06 '22

The parallel runs deep. Time spent in queue is time they're not leveling or gearing, and it all costs the same

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u/Numerous-Ad-5076 Oct 07 '22

WoW is an inelastic product. Stringernomics 101

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u/meestah_spawkles Oct 06 '22

Can always find a new dealer

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u/RivenIsLove Oct 06 '22

I mean id rather invest my playtime on an official server

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u/Sawier Oct 06 '22 Wholesome

addiction

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u/Thrayn42 Oct 06 '22

And this is the reason it continues to be crappy.

The real question: why should Blizzard make classic less buggy when players will pay 15 bucks a month for garbage?

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u/EFEEFEA Oct 06 '22

This garbage

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u/IsLivingWorthIt Oct 06 '22

Hard agree. Blizzard does not give one fuck.

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u/Donrigoberto7 Oct 06 '22

Wait you guys can log in?

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u/Twoyurnipsinheat Oct 06 '22

You might be correct but you're telling a community that really doesn't care.

Blizzard doesn't even have to offer additional gametime for downtime these days, this community will make a forum post and then go buy a 6 month sub.

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u/Azghan Oct 06 '22

ITT: People saying they haven’t encountered bugs because they don’t realize that the experience they’re receiving is incorrect in the first place.

If you want some simple examples:

Minimap party/raid dots are supposed to be class coloured, they’re still the vanilla blue dot.

Until this Tuesday’s patch, we had 1 minute breath timer instead of 3 minutes.

Achievements aren’t being posted either locally nor in guild chat.

These are behaviours that seem to be “not bugged” at first glance because they are lack of functionality rather than something breaking.

These are just very basic examples, but the game is an incredibly unpolished product that Blizzard is gladly milking money for every month for us to beta test the game for them so that they could get the game launched in time to not interfere with Retail launch.

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u/FlokiTrainer Oct 06 '22

We can't make the map smaller. What a weird thing to decide not to do.

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u/andguent Oct 06 '22

Meanwhile me using leatrix plus has the map at 180%.

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u/Cranias Oct 06 '22

Thank you for this, drives me nuts people think it's not a buggy experience. There's even the isle of conquest quest in the game but the battle ground isn't in yet! There are countless missing features, some major some small, there's also many legit bugs.

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u/ILickTurtles4Living Oct 06 '22

Maybe our expectations were too high? Games like 15 years old and we hoped this shit would be polished. Pvp bugs, arena point bug? Some copium will tell its no bug for him because he doesn't do pvp. Yeah shit gets somewhat fixed, but why it's so fucked to start with?

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u/Tsobaphomet Oct 06 '22

Whats the arena point bug? There were a couple people in my guild who got arena rating achievements once they hit lvl 80. Like one got 1550 from hitting 80. They could go to the vendor and buy the gear that was locked behind rating and equip it.

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u/zhalias Oct 06 '22

Whats the arena point bug? There were a couple people in my guild who got arena rating achievements once they hit lvl 80. Like one got 1550 from hitting 80.

Those are 2 separate bugs. The rating one is that the TBC arena ratings carried over to WotLK, which combined with the Wintergrasp exploit people can buy things they aren't supposed to be able to yet.

As for the "arena point" bug, pretty sure he is referring to the fact that running arena matches is giving the points right away, rather than waiting until the end of the week. In short: PVP is dead unless you were there to exploit at the beginning. It will take you months to catch up to the gear these players got in a week.

Blizzard has done exactly nothing to the people who exploited, for literally anything. World firsts, honor capping multiple times in Wintergrasp, so many things have been ruined by exploits, and this is literally just week 1 of launch.

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u/yourmomupvotes Oct 06 '22

Other than a few buggy mining nodes and the Wrathgate issue I haven't seen any. Care to elaborate? I am curious. Have you been reporting them all that you have come across?

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u/AsleepCell Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

Troll shadow priests if played correctly are doing around 1k more dps than any non-troll SP due to a bug with their passive racial "da voodoo shuffle"

It reduces snare duration on the troll and since mind flay is a channeled spell and applies a slow(snare) on your target(NOT YOURSELF) the cast time is reduced by quite a bit. It's the equivalent of having the tier 10 4-set bonus in phase one

This bug was discovered early on beta but blizz haven't even acknowledged it

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u/weavingcomebacks Oct 06 '22

What I'm hearing is that I should make a troll shadow priest.

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u/Random_Name_94173 Oct 07 '22

This gives me old school 90s mmo vibes 100% like Ultima online/ tibia lol

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u/liljoey300 Oct 06 '22

I thought quartz was bugged because my cast was ending way before it was supposed to…

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u/Visible-Ad1787 Oct 06 '22

WTF I've been playing my ally characters, time to go back to my priest...

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u/TheUnperturbed Oct 07 '22

Wait.. so Voodoo Shuffle passive is acting as a passive haste buff for Mind Flay? That is pretty damn broken lol. Especially considering they already get a bis racial pve buff with berserking, which I assume can be stacked with this bugged passive.

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u/Woozythebear Oct 06 '22

Bro, there are bugs that were reported day one of wrath Beta that are still in the game. Like getting stuck in a DC loop after dropping down at the end of Gundrak.

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u/TelevisionNew8318 Oct 06 '22

Gundrak is DC central all over.. lost a tank the other day cause he charged over the bone piles and through the world.

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u/Nerd_Man420 Oct 06 '22

I’ve had at least 5 or 6 quests that I had to drop and re accept because something went wrong with them

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u/IsLivingWorthIt Oct 06 '22

Ask for bugs

Gets like 25 different comments detailing all the bugs

“Well I haven’t seen any of those”

Happens every thread.

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u/Softcorps_dn Oct 06 '22

My default action bars bug out if I enter a vehicle while in combat.

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u/GumbysDonkey Oct 06 '22

My spirit of redemption spellbar empties out eveyrtime I log off. Turned addons off and eveything. I die, spellbar is blank and I have to bust out the spellbook and do it that way.

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u/yourmomupvotes Oct 06 '22

Interesting, I don't think I've encountered this one. Maybe I've just never entered a vehicle while in combat before. I use ElvUI, are you using default ui or an add-on as well?

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u/Softcorps_dn Oct 06 '22

Default UI

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u/zmagickz Oct 06 '22

My doomguard can't keep up with my mount

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u/C0RDE_ Oct 06 '22

Get him a Foam Dome with Red Bull in there, that'll sort him right out.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '22

Im sure he keeps up just fine in dungeons when you charge stun the fucking mob im trying to pull into a group so I can pesti/hb.

Sorry I have PTSD leveling with 2 destro locks.

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u/Warmachine21x Oct 06 '22

Battle for undercity is broken still, the lag in WG and Dal are worse than they were years ago. I've ran into a few other bugs but nothing for me to cry over lol.

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u/Maximoose2 Oct 06 '22

For one, my tabard swapped from Kirin Tor to Wyrmwrest Accord during a CoS.

In Occulus if you die and release, you lose your drake.

Hunter and warlock pets are being summoned at 50%hp

A whole heap of tooltip errors(imp fort/alch flask bonuses)

Feasts are not properly adding +healing.

Wintergrasp.

Arenas this morning were giving out actual arena points per win instead of waiting till the new week.

Wintergrasp.

Heirloom gear not adding secondary stats.

I’m sure there’s plenty more, but this is just what’s at the top of my head.

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u/kondec Oct 06 '22

Hunter and warlock pets are being summoned at 50%hp

Isn't that one a VERY old bug?

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u/Tenkmaku Oct 06 '22

In Occulus if you die and release, you lose your drake.

Only happens if you release and will be ressed by healer.

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u/lollerlaban Oct 06 '22

That's not true

  • healer who lost drake and released

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u/cloudbells Oct 07 '22

Gehennas still has invasions

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u/Cellifal Oct 06 '22

I made my Flask of the North yesterday as an Alchemist, and it refuses to give me the attack power bonus. Doesn't matter if I'm in Cat form, Bear form, Tree form, Feral spec, Resto spec... It just bounces between Strength and Spell Power. Real frustrating for my main profession bonus to not work for my dps spec.

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u/Skryptix Oct 06 '22

For Druids 1 Strength = 2 Attack Power, so it defaults to Strength.

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u/Cellifal Oct 06 '22

Hm. Is that the case in Cat Form as well? That makes me significantly less annoyed if so.

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u/Grieverzz Oct 06 '22

Strength is the stat you want in Cat.

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u/eske555 Oct 06 '22

Apart from the previous mentioned:

-Friend list is bygged 50% of the time. -item equipment tool has a few item sets I cant interact with anymore. They are just a red quiestionmark. -maybe not a bug: but the group Finder tool is so badly optimized, its insane. You have to manually refresh the page to se new listings. When making a group, you can only see one person at a time which requests to join. Literally have to decline someone before you can see the next one, which leaves you with no option. -very often DC due to falling into water, using a spell while falling and so on -achievement sound?

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u/M24_Stielhandgranate Oct 06 '22

There are so so so many combat bugs too

Evading mobs in Icecrown

That quest in Zul’Drak where you command geists and have to put the costume on and off again for the geist to not be killed by an invisible mob

Also in Zul’Drak, in the quest where you control the giant guy you can’t heal because picking up storm clouds does nothing, neither does throwing them

Being disconnected if you enter the no fly zone in Dalaran

Hasn’t happened to me personally but alot of guildies complain about key binds and macro randomly resetting/being deleted

Mobs in Storm Peaks randomly disappearing and reappearing in combat (think this is due to phasing being janky)

All of the ones I can think of right now

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u/Ok_Grapefruit5405 Oct 06 '22

Don't forget about:

- Battle for Undercity was a layer/phase clusterfuck for a while

On horde, most people literally had to get to UC, phase into the battle, and go back to OG in order to hand in the starter q to Thrall. (Could imagine the same for alliance too)

- UP 3rd boss looks kinda.... ODD?

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u/M24_Stielhandgranate Oct 06 '22

Oh yeah that’s right. Never did that one but it’s the most known quest bug I think. And Skadi’s dragon running in the air is hilarious although a bug

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u/MochinoVinccino Oct 06 '22

You're right. It's a known quest bug, that has been known for 12 years, that existed in retail until it was just disabled. It's unacceptable that one of the biggest and lore-heavy quests of the entire expansion was released in the same broken state as 12 years ago, regardless of what anyone says.

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u/coolsexhaver69 Oct 06 '22

Picking up storm clouds in the zul’drak giant quest absolutely worked as of a couple days ago. Are you sure you didn’t have an enemy in your hand already?

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u/M24_Stielhandgranate Oct 06 '22

Yes. Absolutely positive. But I did it on the release day so it might have been patched

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u/Live_Championship_95 Oct 06 '22

I did it a few days ago during the 70-80 grind and it happened to me too

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u/lyvanna Oct 06 '22

Key binds and macros reset if you're force disconnected instead of logging off properly in case they aren't aware. Yesterday and the day before were an absolute dc-fest for me so maybe it was for them too.

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u/DeanWhipper Oct 06 '22

There are literally thousands of little bugs. Too many to possibly recall

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u/kabbzter Oct 06 '22

Progress on achievements.

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u/DokFraz Oct 06 '22

I mean, there's also the fact that achievement notifications are still broken and have been since the beta. The Wrath in-game quest helper has just been shuttered; sure, people just use questie, but it's still a part of the game they're just deciding they can't do.

It's really just wild how incomplete Wrath Classic is, and that they're pretty open and honest about: "Yeah, we don't have the time to fix this, so we aren't even going to pretend like we're trying. This won't work, just deal with it."

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u/margmi Oct 06 '22

They're doing the questhelper, it's just not done yet. The day they said they weren't doing it, they made another post where they changed their mind.

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u/Legal_Article_813 Oct 06 '22

The mining nodes phasing issue was there back in the day. Its part of the authenticity.

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u/ritepArg91 Oct 06 '22

You can't take a second buff potion unless you relog or maybe /reload. The potion CD gets stuck until then.

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u/Awe_kek Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

LFG tool sometimes spinning endlessly.

Strand of the ancient being (nearly) unplayable. (can't res or just with a workaround and if you do you spawn in the enemies spawn, spawning on the enemies boat)

Zul'Drak Arena bugs.

Randomly getting chain dced. (only happened once to me so far)

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u/Tsobaphomet Oct 06 '22

I've noticed more bugs than functioning content tbh.

The worst one for me is that achievements don't make a sound or display in public, group, or guild chat. As someone who likes getting achievements, it really feels awful. It feels like they are fake. We have to rely on Attune (an addon) to put a display message in guild chat.

Not even a word from Blizzard on it.

As a warrior, arms has been bugged since the beta and has been reported hundreds of times and the bug still hasn't been fixed. So that's fun.

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u/Skryptix Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

My casting animations & escape key stop working if typhoon clips through terrain.

I've died at least 10 times after my gryphon disappeared on flight paths due to "trasnfer aborted: instance not found". One time it happened between Auberdine and Teldrassil on the FP from Moonglade. I managed to avoid dying to Fatigue by teleporting to Moonglade again. I took the flightpath and died in the mountains near the dancing troll village & had to take res sickness as I couldn't access my corpse. I took the boat.

I disconnect way too frequently, especially during world PvP.

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u/lyvanna Oct 06 '22

#showtooltip
/cast Typhoon
/stopcasting

Should fix typhoon, you'll have to relog to fix it the first time and if it somehow sneaks through again (only happened to me once)

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u/Lorddenorstrus Oct 06 '22

There's a lot, a commonly seen one is Mounting to fly up / down is causing pets to lose HP. It isn't snapshotting their current HP and resummoning at that amount properly.

But, for bugs on more relative content. Just know that basically every dungeon I was able to find 3+ bugs in and report. Most being boss abilities not working as intended. Wotlk dungeons were easy. Not this easy. Half of these guys are patchwerking right now and basically letting us kill em w/o doing shit.

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u/Doctorbatman3 Oct 06 '22

The pet thing is not a bug, it was intended to he a fix to an exploit where pets could be healed to full when you get on a flying mount. Having pets always start at 1/2hp was their work around. Albeit a very poor work Round, still not a bug.

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u/MY_1ST_ACT_IS_LOCKED Oct 06 '22

My pet doesn’t take any damage, it can’t hold aggro. Yet, it’s always around 1/10th health because it loses a portion of its health bar every time I fly. Definitely not stabilizing at 1/2

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u/Doctorbatman3 Oct 06 '22

It's 50% of its current hp every time, not just to 50% of max

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u/Masterjason13 Oct 06 '22

I haven’t seen any missing boss abilities, do you have examples?

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u/Mysterious-Zombie-86 Oct 06 '22

The only bug that annoys me is for the last week my mirror images on arcane refuse to attack 90% of the time unless I’m hit so it’s pretty much just used as an anti aggro tool and that’s it

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u/tzeriel Oct 06 '22

Really good post. Lots of details on the bugs.

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u/xplicit_mike Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

You're honestly shilling if you haven't seen the myriad of bugs from quests straight up broken, phasing, wintergrasp, layering, I mean there's too many examples to list lol. Game is a mess.

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u/notmyworkaccount5 Oct 06 '22

As a player who just came back after a few years and started wrath last night, what major bugs should I be watching out for?

I've only played like 1-2 hours so far so I haven't run into any yet

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u/Liawuffeh Oct 06 '22

Other than wrathgate I haven't ran across many myself, so I wouldn't worry much. Alliance side at least.

So far just my Shadowvault flight path and Wrathgate

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u/Pluuf Oct 06 '22

Just make sure you dont disconnect on a battleground where you enter as the opposite faction (with the masks and all). Because this changes you insignia of the horde/alliance into the other one, but if you DC and log back in you're not in the battleground anymore but your insignia will remain unchanged. There was a reddit post here recently about it.

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u/not_a_dolphin_ Oct 06 '22

I have over 3 days played at 80 and haven’t experienced anything super buggy except some weird layering issues but what do you want them to do with so many players playing at once???

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u/xplicit_mike Oct 06 '22

Huge layering issues affecting everything from WG buff to party buffs in 5 mans, quests broken like AoA, and phasing+layering not working well in places like Icecrown or SP to name a few

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u/Rawkapotamus Oct 06 '22

I don’t know I’ve never been disconnected while charging in this game, which happened occasionally in private servers.

I did get DCd and ported to Org one time when getting knocked by a boss through a wall in scholo back in vanilla.

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u/xplicit_mike Oct 06 '22

77 yet? You get disconnected flying into dal nearly every time without fail instead of getting a cute parachute, then when you log in your character is stuck on the ground with a parachute. Never happened on any ps I played

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u/Rawkapotamus Oct 06 '22

I’ve never had that happen, but that’s big frustrating. I did get dismounted flying over the camp in colderra.

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u/xplicit_mike Oct 06 '22

I had to do AoA 3x on my priest and a certain named mob in boring tundra like 6x cus layering was screwing up the quest completion/progress, even or especially when grouped. Completely frustrating.

WG buff is still 50/50 in any heroic I hop in to.

I still DC every time I fly into Dal/Sunreavers Sanctum.

But yeah like any bug yvmv

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u/xplicit_mike Oct 06 '22

No. I play on Eranikus NA East

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u/Mescman Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 06 '22

Suuure... Strangely I haven't ran in to any bugs that have prevented me from doing what I intended. Been 80 for a while now and absolutely nolifed for a week so I should have encountered something gamebreaking by now.

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u/Rarest-Pepe Oct 06 '22

I mean… I’ve gone though 70 to 80 and got nearly all prebis raiding gear from crafting and dungeons/tokens… spent a lot time mining and fishing… only bug I’ve found is the odd bugged node in icecrown. Playing on mirage raceway eu.

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u/xplicit_mike Oct 06 '22

Cool. I'm full prebis and experienced many frustrating bugs. Not gnna "stop playing", but tbc wasn't nearly as broken and I'm not blind to that.

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u/BroxigarZ Oct 06 '22

First - Lets clear up a misconception:

  • Blizzard attacked Private Servers over IP infringement
  • You are paying $15 a month to access the IP
  • The WoW Devs in the office today are not the ones who existed or made WOTLK
  • Believing the incompetency of the Dev team that made BFA/Shadowlands can fix WOTLK is absurd copium
  • Don't expect Blizzard to fix anything - they've been a trainwreck for 5 years and its not getting better.

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u/Drachri93 Oct 07 '22

and its not getting better.

Except Dragonflight is a huge step in the right direction for the retail version of the game. No borrower power outside of tier sets, significantly less timegating, and huge QoL for talent builds with their new talent trees.

I know most if not all people on this sub don't like/downright hate retail, but they are showing signs of big improvement compared to BfA and SL. It's not perfect, but we're heading in the right direction again for the first time in years.

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u/griffsor Oct 07 '22

Dragonflight is literally not out yet.

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u/Lorddenorstrus Oct 06 '22

Yeah, people keep telling me "oh you're just remembering Pservers they don't script stuff right." So i spent a few hours watching videos from 2008 clears to check Bosses ability usage in dungeons. Nah I was right, I made a gigantic list of bug report after for nearly every Wotlk dungeon. They are loot pinatas with dysfunctional mechanics right now. Shit on pservers for missing a random fucking quest or 2 in the open world you could skip. But at least the fucking dungeons worked properly.

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u/Ok_Ad3406 Oct 06 '22

It’s true, this experience is WAY worse than the private server Whitemane before they introduced shitty changes after Naxx patch. The first patch of Whitemane was so much fucking fun, a shame they shut down. But it really highlights to me just how bad this port of the game is.

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u/lilbrybry29 Oct 06 '22

The game is pretty broken in the current state. Just last night while finishing up quests in Fjord for Loremaster, the quest where you control an eagle to collect eggs will crash your game if you use Soar at any point.

My first run in DTK ever, after killing Theron'ja and jumping into the pool, my game crashed and I literally could NOT log in without instantly disconnecting again. Probably the biggest game breaking bug i've ever encountered in WoW. But they've since fixed this.

Had to use the character unstuck service three times last week. In addition, Spirit of Redemption for priests continues to remain a buggy mess since TBC classic. Falling off the edge of the world or even off the side of Occulus will likely put you in a permanent Spirit state that you can't click off. Softlocking your character.

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u/dengeus Oct 06 '22

For real I feel like there are more bugs now than the original WotlK.

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u/MatchMundane7619 Oct 07 '22

I have noticed a lot of buggy mobs in the open world

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u/J0kerN_ Oct 06 '22

There was defo bugs on private servers, but yea this is bad.

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u/Bobthebuilda12 Oct 07 '22

Title = truth

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u/InfiniteShadox Oct 07 '22

People on this sub probably haven't kept up to date with privates. Ever since the big one merged with AT in 2018 or so, we have had access to a really good server. I have experienced more bugs in wrath classic than on the big one since the merge

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u/Racant34 Oct 08 '22

Same, only had a handful of small, non-game breaking bugs on the server and on classic i've seen dozens of minor bugs and a handful of game-breaking ones in just the last week and a half.

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u/suichkaa Oct 06 '22

one of my guildies sum'd it up pretty well last night. he said we are actually playing the beta right now, and the previous beta was just a pr kick, give all the beta invs to streamers to get the plebs hyped up to play the game. we are in the testing phase rn

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u/Hextechwheelchair Oct 06 '22

To be fair, the biggest wotlk server is fine. But other private servers are a total mess. Sure there is one team of people out there that has amazing wotlk servers, but even so, they are doing it with passion and for 10+ years. Blizzard downgraded the Legion version into classic and have 2.5 interns working on minimum wage + rice.

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u/Vandrel Oct 06 '22

The biggest WotLK server out there has over 10,000 bugs on their bug tracker and it includes pretty basic stuff like certain ability cooldowns not starting, abilities that don't work correctly, quests that don't work, and whole bunch of other stuff.

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u/Droksie-eh Oct 06 '22

Please just google trinity core 3.3.5 server, instaall it, test it for a day, and come here and let us see…the core has been improving since 10 years now, its 99 percent blizzlike

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u/Vandrel Oct 06 '22

Private server people really like to say their servers are 99% blizzlike but it's never true. Maybe an argument could be made that it's 99% if you ignore all the bugs but that's not exactly convincing.

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u/tadashi4 Oct 06 '22

im impressed they get the bonus rice rice.

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u/hirexnoob Oct 06 '22

There are worthless pservers and there are the established good ones. The established are for sure less buggy than classic

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u/Timevacuum78 Oct 06 '22

It’s a rusty needle for sure

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u/DrB00 Oct 06 '22

Can't wait for the wow apologists to say we're paying for retail and classic is just a free addition...

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u/Tsobaphomet Oct 06 '22

That's what I've been saying. Somehow it's an unpopular opinion to have.

Do people just not want a bigger budget for the game they are dedicating so many hours to? Maybe more than 3 employees at Blizzard working on it?

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u/BigBlueCat30 Oct 06 '22

It's really not. Go back to a private server if the experience is better.

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u/EBeerman1 Oct 06 '22

Everyone is asking for bug-examples - one thing is WG on classic and blizzard not being able to support large scale pvp in their large scale pvp battleground

Say what you will about Pservers but we NEVER, froze or locked up when doing 120 vs 120 pvp

Also gaming WG to get a million marks the first few days was pserver level incompetence

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u/Jaiden_da_ancom Oct 06 '22

There is one thing I remember so fondly about the vanilla through wrath era and it's bugs that were never fixed lol. This feels very authentic.

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u/Ubermensch5272 Oct 06 '22

Already went back to retail because classic is just a mess.

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u/zakpakt Oct 06 '22

I already unsubbed, maybe I'll come back again. Just wasn't fun anymore. Have a blast in Northrend guys!

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u/Dyrreah Oct 06 '22

It's not tho.... yeah the Wrathgate is messed up, other than that I saw 1 herb node and 1 mob that were bugged. You must not remember what privates were like.

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u/Hipy20 Oct 07 '22

Every node on the edge of a zone is broken.

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u/lopnk Oct 06 '22

This is a horrible take and just hoping for some reddit karma.

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u/MtnDew93 Oct 07 '22

UP dragon fight is fucked, Gundrak has mobs under the floor, today on grobbulus isle of conquest is the daily bg but guess what there's no fucking isle of conquest, heroic dailies reset at 3am way before all other dailies???

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u/Artrill Oct 06 '22

Lmao, private servers are literally broken. This is such cope.

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u/Shoelesshobos Oct 06 '22

Eh IDK about that chief. Even the current king of WOTLK private servers atm had an ungodly mess of bugs such as certain dungeon bosses literally spamming spells until they are fully out of mana, prominent quest chains where you get stuck and die or end up on the back of a drake getting a bug where it claims you are moving and can't cast.

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u/notthatkindoforc1121 Oct 06 '22

As someone who has played on those PServers for over 5 years, this is less buggy.

The only massive advantage on those servers is they perform WAY better is lots of players on a screen. Aside from that, they are VERY buggy. Anyone claiming they aren't hasn't played them much.

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u/Amaurotica Oct 07 '22

some people like me got that in 2019 and havent given those fucks 1$ since

bugs, bots, queues, boosts, locked 20$ chars per expansion transfer

lol, god speed

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u/ZlionAlex Oct 06 '22

Coming from 7 consecutive years of private servers - no, you're full of shit

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u/BaltrGoneWrong Oct 06 '22

as someone who's coming from playing on molten since 2013, recent private server experience is 100x better than classic wow

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u/InfiniteShadox Oct 07 '22

Yeah these guys probably played one server in 2015 and called it a day lmao

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u/ER_Jujube Oct 06 '22

I legit have not encountered a single bug so far, although I admittedly only cleared Borean Tundra as of today.

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u/SHINZOH-SASAGEYO Oct 06 '22

If you're Horde, the quest where you team up with Saurfang to kill the necromancer dude is horrendously bugged.

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u/Freedye_ Oct 06 '22

Idk, the only bug i found on my road to 80 was the battle for undercity one.
Everything seems good so far.

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u/Bowens1993 Oct 06 '22

Lol, private servers are way worse than this.

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u/WordsRHardd Oct 06 '22

Objectively incorrect but go off bud

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u/TheDr34d Oct 06 '22

I’m in the latter group as well, and have not experienced any bugs that are not related to add-ons. However, I also maintain the perspective that I pay $15/month for Retail, Classic is free. If I’m really pushing delusions, I can convince myself that I’m paying $7.50/month for each. Seems like a good deal to me.

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u/wrathofroc Oct 06 '22

Go back to pserver then, literally nobody cares

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u/AtypiquePC Oct 06 '22

Stop paying and go back to private servers. Those bugs that you encounter once a week dont affect your gameplay.

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u/xplicit_mike Oct 06 '22

WG buff disappearing for some party members? Having to do AoA 3x cus of broken layering questing? Disconnecting every time I fly into Dal instead of getting a timer with a parachute? Buffs not working correctly in 5 man groups? Those do affect gameplay pal

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u/Scaveola Oct 06 '22

Yeah….no. Private servers are way worse than this.

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u/Doobiemoto Oct 06 '22

No it isn’t. Stop with this stupid shit that private servers were this bug free no lag utopia.

They were really bad in a lot of places.