r/WhitePeopleTwitter Sep 23 '22 Silver 3 Helpful 5 Wholesome 5 Take My Energy 1 Bless Up (Pro) 1

Who makes you feel unsafe?

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u/clemkaddidlehopper Sep 23 '22 Silver Take My Energy

I get what this person is intending, but I also feel like this is a little bit white knighting, infantilizing, and condescending. Trans and gay people are human too, and not all of them are nice or “safe.” There are some better and some worse individuals within these groups, just like with all groups of people.

There are some people — straight conservative Christian men, even — who may have values and priorities that vary vastly from my own, yet they may not be “unsafe” towards me.

I have been sexually harassed by a gay woman, for example. I didn’t come away from that experience thinking all gay women are bad — she was just a bad egg.

I have had plenty — many more — bad experiences with men who consider themselves to be straight conservative Christians as well, but I have also known some of these types of people who genuinely tried to love others the way they think God or Christ would.

I am an atheist who dislikes religion and the oppression that comes from it. I think forcing Christian conservative values on others in our society is misguided and toxic. However, I also don’t think it is healthy to put gay and trans people on a pedestal. If we want people to treat LGBTQ+ folks as human beings, we need to allow them to be imperfect .

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u/Evcher Sep 23 '22

Only level-headed response here. The generalizations make me sick.

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u/EasyThreezy Sep 23 '22

Yeah it’s quite the echo chamber in here.

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u/JesusChrist-Jr Sep 23 '22

I had to scroll too far to find a reasonable response that wasn't bandwagoning with the echo chamber. I have personally seen a few gay and trans people who were extremely predatory, and as a man there have been a few gay men who made me feel unsafe at times. I don't judge all gay and trans people on those interactions though, and likewise there are straight white Christian males who make me feel unsafe, but the majority don't and it's not worth condemning them all for it. Gay and trans people are unfairly portrayed by certain segments of society, but doing the same to another group makes you just as bad. Challenge them through your actions to rise to your level rather than lowering yourself to meet them at theirs.

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u/RandomDerp96 Sep 23 '22

Don't forget, you are conservative by choice, since it aligns with your ideals.

You are not trans or gay by choice.

So it is not a surprise that some behaviors are more common in one group than the other, since one group is based on ideals, while the other is a loose term based on one trait only,leaving much more room for variety.

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u/unsympathetic_ns Sep 23 '22

Completely agree, I just made a similar comment before seeing yours. I am a gay male and have been in many situations where other gay men have made me feel unsafe. They’re not a monolith of harmless, funny, accepting and compassionate angels.

I’m not detracting from her first statement, and I agree with it. It’s more the other commenters here don’t seem to understand that behavioral and social problems don’t disappear when someone comes out of the closet.

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u/Epipha-tree Sep 23 '22

Thank God for this comment. Reading everything above was super disappointing. The answer is always love, none of those comments are coming from a place of love at all.

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u/PlanOk2801 Sep 23 '22

Thank you for believing there are good Christians out there, I know this thread is mostly about white Christian conservative men but I can’t help but to think some of the comments are just directly about Christians and when I read that some people on this thread would hate me in real life simply because I am Christian even though I’m neither white nor straight nor conservative, it kinda does hurt, I tend to stay away from these type of threads because I know I’ll see comments like “I hate Christians” or “Christians should just die” and I get hurt pretty easily (sadly). I just simply try to be a better person every day and love people like God says we should, but anyways I just wanted to comment and say thank you for your positive msg ❤️

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u/TrexIsKing Sep 23 '22

Much agreed with your take.

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u/LikeUmPlump Sep 23 '22

I was sexually assaulted by a gay man but I don't hate gay people because of it. There's shitty people in every group.

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u/Casted_Ember_ Sep 23 '22

Thank you for being the only person in this comment section with a cell of intelligence

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u/get_lizzy Sep 23 '22

Completely agree with this. No particular group should be idolised or put down as a whole.

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u/axolotlmaster59 Sep 23 '22

Finally an intelligent person in the comments. I think we are also forgetting that straight men are the vast majority of men, so there are bound to be way more bad apples in that group.

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u/Dojanetta Sep 23 '22

I think they meant as in only group they have an irrational fear of where most likely they’re ok even though they give off like bad vibes.