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u/Bee-Aromatic Sep 23 '22

I’m a white cishet male and straight conservative Christian men scare me.

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u/kicktherobot Sep 23 '22

Lmao dude you have the right to be afraid, theyre fucking scary.

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u/Up_vote_McSkrote Sep 23 '22

I'm never around them without my anti-rape chastity pants personally.

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u/3_T_SCROAT Sep 23 '22

I can't afford those, i usually just super glue my butt crack shut

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u/S4T4NICP4NIC Sep 23 '22

I've found Gorilla Glue to be a much better adhesive.

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u/Salty_Truth1 Sep 23 '22

You gotta perty mouth

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u/washedrope5 Sep 23 '22

Is walking around a southern church scarier to you than walking around East St. Louis at night?

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22

Good

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u/IrritableLinden Sep 23 '22

It's almost hilarious how defensive some of the replies to this comment are.

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u/itgoesdownandup Sep 23 '22

Tbf it's kinda singling out Christians for no reason especially when they contribute to the bigger problem being conservative. Like people can be Christian and be progressive. May be more rare but the person up above is directly supporting conservatives.

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u/Bee-Aromatic Sep 23 '22

It kind of is!

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u/TheAskewOne Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

I'm a white cishet male too, raised by white "Christian" conservatives. In my life the people who have been most dangerous to me were the men in my family.

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u/YFLwiddaHomies Sep 23 '22

What is cishet?

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u/Bee-Aromatic Sep 23 '22

cisgender — presenting gender as assigned at birth — and heterosexual.

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u/RustedRuss Sep 23 '22

I’ll second that

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22

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u/itgoesdownandup Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

Let's not just take an entire group of people and say they will rape and murder if given the chance. Okay?

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u/redmarketsolutions Sep 23 '22

But they say this! they say the only reason they don't rape and murder everything in their sight is because they're being told not to, and when that voice goes away, they will, because their consciences have atrophied to nothing.

And there's historical evidence for this! Look at the fucking crusades!

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u/Bee-Aromatic Sep 23 '22

Claiming a monopoly on morality is a characteristic of religions. They just like to ignore the fact that when people decide to exit their cults that they don’t just start running out to rape, murder, and pillage. Turns out those of us who do decide to leave — or have never been engaged with the cult to begin with — tend to function in society just fine. It’s almost like God’s got nothing to do with it!

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u/redmarketsolutions Sep 23 '22

But the idea that they do claim that is only possible because they lack adequate self awareness to have a conscience.

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u/Bee-Aromatic Sep 23 '22

That is part of the concept of “faith.” “Belief in the face lack of evidence or even evidence to the contrary.” It requires one to at least suspend critical thinking. Better for them to not have it to begin with.

It’s why I left the church. After years of introspection, I was left with two conclusions: God doesn’t exist or he’s an absentee father who’s a vindictive asshole the rare times he’s paying attention. Applying Occam’s and Hitchens’ Razors, God simply not existing makes the most sense.

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u/itgoesdownandup Sep 23 '22

That's not what it's about. People say that the Bible should be a guide. I don't think it's common for it to be taught literally people can't function without it. Just that there is overlap between them and non-christians but they still have the differing rules and guidelines to follow to be more ethical.

Also can you clarify what you meant by your comment as a whole. Are you saying it's conservative Christian men that scare you? Just Christian men? Conservative straight Christian men?

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u/Bee-Aromatic Sep 23 '22

I mean, to be clear, it’s fundamentalist Christians that scare me. White, cishet Christian fundamentalists are the ones that get listened to.

Thing is, the Christians we have problems with the “my way is the only way” ones. They’re the ones making legislation. Bible based laws on gay marriage and on abortion are the two big examples of that right now. They don’t ask atheists like me what I think, or Muslims or Jews or Buddhists or Wiccans anybody else. They take their own book, which they apply as “everybody but is is wrong and going to hell.”

That’s what I’m scared of.

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u/itgoesdownandup Sep 23 '22

Whoever is they isn't a representation of all Christians.

Also yes people have used religion to cause agony and misery to the world. People are just kinda terrible in general. Religion is just another excuse used to defend the actions.

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u/redmarketsolutions Sep 23 '22

Most people who claim the title. The organization from which they descend for over a thousand years and into the present day.

It's what the word means, dude, they own it. Call yourself some other shit and cut the 'genocide is cool misogyny is necessary slavery is awesome' bits out of your fucking holy book if you don't want the association. Or just worship better gods. Or don't claim obedience to that one.

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u/itgoesdownandup Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

Already basically addressed your points in the other comment. Still can't believe you just think any ole person who says they are Christian is just raring to rape and murder. Probably like 90% of Christians barely even practice.

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u/redmarketsolutions Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

Uh huh. I'm pretty sure most popes were christian.

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u/itgoesdownandup Sep 23 '22

Pope's don't even represent all Christians? And they don't represent all catholics either. Again probably a good majority of Christians don't even know anything besides like doctrine 101. Stop defending your stereotyping behaviors. I'm sorry to tell you the world isn't back and white.

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u/redmarketsolutions Sep 23 '22

Uh huh. Well I guess there are no real christians, and Christianity isn't a real thing.

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u/Adorable_Wallaby1330 Sep 23 '22

He didn't say all Christians. He said straight conservative Christian men.

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u/itgoesdownandup Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

They said Christian men.

Edit: that's been the whole thing I was arguing about because many different people exist under the Christian label. And they gave further proved this is what they were talking about as we argue for a nit specifically only about Christians. Not to mention this whole little comment thread is about Christian men. And for convenience sake it turned into being about Christians as a whole. Which makes sense they probably don't assume the best things about other Christian people

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u/itgoesdownandup Sep 23 '22

No need to be a jerk. Also yes the conversation is solely about Christian men? As Christian men were the only targeted out. It was the topic of discussion.

Someone says I'm everything but Christian and Christian men scare me. And Someone's reply is basically "yeah because without their book they don't have morals and would rape and murder." You do not think this is about Christian men?

Since I dont think you saw my edit here it is again:

That's been the whole thing I was arguing about because many different people exist under the Christian label. And they further proved this is what they were talking about as we argue for a bit specifically only about Christians. Not to mention this whole little comment thread is about Christian men. And for convenience sake it turned into being about Christians as a whole. Which makes sense they probably don't assume the best things about other Christian people.

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u/Adorable_Wallaby1330 Sep 23 '22

You're still not reading it.

CONSERVATIVE.

You are the one who broadened this topic to all Christians. No one else on this thread but you. I am a Christian woman and Conservative Christian men scare the shit out of me too.

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u/MythicalSavior666 Sep 23 '22

Just because they think like nazi and act like nazi and cheer to nazi propaganda doesn't mean they will turn out like nazi?

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u/itgoesdownandup Sep 23 '22

You can be Christian and like be progressive, you know?

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u/redmarketsolutions Sep 23 '22

Not this century. No.

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u/itgoesdownandup Sep 23 '22

Yes you can. There's many different sects that teach differing interpretations of the Bible. And actually more important on an individual basis whether people just say they are Christians without practicing or they practice and through their own individual interpretation help and think in a progressive manner.

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u/redmarketsolutions Sep 23 '22

Okay, well then I'm a Christian, because I love LSD, think the grape harvest is sacred, think abundant sex-casual and otherwise-is great, believe there is insight to be found in madness, and would so lead a bloody slave revolt because I believe in freedom.

And also lsd should be socialized again, why did we stop doing that?

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u/itgoesdownandup Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

I remember learning about a Christian sect who are actually completely okay with sin because it's supposed to be expected from our human bodies. So I mean i get you were joking. But I mean yeah kinda applies. So even joking about this stuff as being the opposite of what "Christians are supposed to do." You can still call yourslef a christian. Not to mention as I said a good bit of Christians aren't practicing and just use it as a label so to speak.

Edit: this might be a different one from what I remember but it's similar "The Way"

"The Way notably believes that once a person is born again, they receive "holy spirit" and cannot lose it through any sinful acts."

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u/redmarketsolutions Sep 23 '22

I was literally describing cult of Bacchus/Dionysus. Which is pre Christian and an actual not terrible religion.

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u/MythicalSavior666 Sep 23 '22

You can be christian and +THINK+ you are progressive, you can even appear progressive compared to the most backwards chritians, but it is a regressive ancient authoritarian and false world view in any form.

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u/itgoesdownandup Sep 23 '22

And that equals wanting to rape and murder? Also what's the actual difference between appearing and being progressive and does it even matter? It just sounds like you still advocate for progressive acts. That still makes you progressive. And the whole regressive ancient authoritarian thing. Different interpretations on individual and sect levels. And on top of differing amounts of investment from people just kinda muddles the whole thing. Like I don't know about you, but probably a good bit of Christians I know don't attend church, read bibles, or anything like that. It's just a label for the most part. It's just such black and white thinking.

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u/MythicalSavior666 Sep 23 '22

I never said all christians want to rape and murder.

The difference between being progressive and appearing progressive can be as wide as corporate democrats like Pelosi who are all about insider trading and surface level progressive posturing vs real progressives like AOC or bernie who are actually progressives and not posturing and pandering.

If you believe there is a jesus / god who you must worship serve and obey like an actual christian and you want a king to return to save us from a fallen world ruled by the devil that is a completely authoritarian anti freedom regressive and false world view. If you call yourself a christian but you don't believe there ever was a jesus/god and you don't believe you have to worship serve or obey any deity and you don't read the bible and you don't want a king to return to save us then you aren't really a christian at all, you're mislabeling yourself.

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u/itgoesdownandup Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

So why can't you be progressive and be Christian?

"You're mislabeling yourself" yeah probably most likely agnostic if not just Christianity lite where they think there is a God and it's probably the Christian God. But regardless of either one they still call themselves Christian and so are applicable to the conversation.

Also you didn't say that you are correct you just defended the sentiment.

Edit: also that's a kinds a big simplification of what being a Christian is, but I digress I'm already tired of this conversation. So I'm not going to talk about something that may cause arguments.

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u/Bee-Aromatic Sep 23 '22

It’s true that the statement is a generalization and that there are plenty of decent white, male, Christians. The point is that there’s enough white, male, Christian who use their identity as a license to be fucking deplorable that’s been identified as a pattern.

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u/itgoesdownandup Sep 23 '22

Yeah, but that's the issue I was arguing with the generalization. I'm not saying people don't, and making your point in a generalization shows a lack of nuance and is just kinda bad.

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u/Bee-Aromatic Sep 23 '22

You’re not wrong, but it’s the bad ones that are making the rules. The focus isn’t on the harmless ones.

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u/itgoesdownandup Sep 23 '22

Then it shouldn't shift there. That was my whole issue. It's asinine and reeks of I don't leave my house. My problem isn't that people try to merge religion in state. It'd about the fact someone literally thinks Christians-which is a religious group of like a billion people-are all basically waiting at the helm to kill and rape. There's no reason that this argument shouldn't even have to be made. It's actually absurd and garbage.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22

Cuck lmao

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u/TheMaster225 Sep 23 '22

cishet

Wtf is that?

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u/forgotmypassword-_- Sep 23 '22

cis = not trans

het = heterosexual

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u/TheMaster225 Sep 23 '22

Idk why anyone would want to call themselves that lol. That word is so unknown that if you call yourself a "cishet" outside of reddit, people are gonna wonder what drugs you're on. Just say heterosexual male so everyone understands.

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u/forgotmypassword-_- Sep 23 '22

Idk why anyone would want to call themselves that lol.

Because it's an accurate descriptor, that quickly conveys information?

That word is so unknown that if you call yourself a "cishet" outside of reddit, people are gonna wonder what drugs you're on.

Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean other people don't.

Just say heterosexual male so everyone understands.

cishet-2 syllables.

heterosexual male/female-6/7 syllables

Cishet is much more efficient terminology.

Male also is ambiguous. Are you talking about someone who was born a male, or a transman? Some people use male to refer to biological markers, others do not. Cis doesn't have this ambiguity.

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u/MythicalSavior666 Sep 23 '22

"straight conservative Christian men"

There's an abbreviation for this type of person which is much easier to type, it's Nazi.

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u/Spyglass3 Sep 23 '22

Ooooh look at the scary men that work 9 to 5 jobs then go home to their wives and children. Sometimes I see them even having barbecues with their friends and neighbors, absolutely sickens me

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u/tarabithia22 Sep 23 '22

So much to unpack here.

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u/religion- Sep 23 '22

I’m a cishet twice baked potato. My pronouns are zip/zeep/zer. Straight white irish males are scary to me.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22

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u/BoltonSauce Sep 23 '22

That's because you're sadistic and gross, like conservatives tend to be. So weak and pitiful that you need to try to intimidate people to feel satisfied. Bunch of pathetic wannabe Gastons.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

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u/BoltonSauce Sep 23 '22

Conservative religious folk aren't unlike rabid aninals; unpredictable. It would be expecting too much to think one might try to argue in good faith. Either they know how use rhetoric and refuse to do so out of their fascistic inclinations, or they're too dull-witted to do so. There are few exceptions. You've already demonstrated pleasure at someone else's discomfort. Don't turn back now, or people might think you're a coward.

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u/BoltonSauce Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

I'm not the original OP. I find conservatives, having lived among them for decades, to be despicable moreso than scary. They are dangerous, though. Want a real reason?

Because believing so fervently in god inherently demands magical thinking. Magical thinking makes a person more gullible. A gullible person can be easily manipulated into engaging in the worst horrors of mankind. We see this occurring by Russia upon the Ukranian people this very moment. Almost every genocide has been religiously driven. The religious are a fundamental danger to humanity. They care less about making Earth, here and now, better because they're waiting for their fantasy vacation.

E: typo

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u/Spyglass3 Sep 23 '22

Russia is one of the most secular countries in the world. I'll tell you what though Pol Pot wasn't religious when he murdered a quarter of the Cambodian population, Mao wasn't religious when he killed 60 million people, Stalin wasn't religious as he ordered thousands to be shot or hanged. All genocides being religious is a bunch of bullshit that people like you eat up from the Huffington Post. Talk about gullible

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u/MythicalSavior666 Sep 23 '22

You couldn't be more wrong.

"On a rounded total population of 142,800,000 the survey found that 66,840,000 persons, or 47.4% of the total population, were Christians.[1] Among them, 58,800,000 or 41.1% of the population were believers in the Russian Orthodox Church, 5,900,000 or 4.1% were Christians without any denomination, 2,100,000 or 1.5% were believers in Orthodox Christianity without belonging to any church or (a smaller minority) belonging to non-Russian Orthodox churches (including Armenian and Georgian), 400,000 or 0.2% were Orthodox Old Believers, 300,000 or 0.2% were Protestants, and 140,000 (less than 0.1%) were Catholics.[1] Among the non-Christians, 9,400,000 or 6.5% of the population were Muslims (including Sunni Islam, Shia Islam, and a majority of unaffiliated Muslims), 1,700,000 or 1.2% were pagans (including Rodnovery, Assianism, and other religions) or Tengrists (Turco-Mongol shamanic religions and new religions), 700,000 or 0.5% were Buddhists (mostly of the Tibetan schools), 140,000 or 0.1% were Hindus (including Krishnaites), and 140,000 were religious Jews.[1] Among the not religious population, 36,000,000 people or 25% declared to "believe in God (or in a higher power)" but to "not profess any particular religion", 18,600,000 or 13% were atheists, and 7,900,000 or 5.5% did not state any religious, spiritual or atheist belief.[1]"

Despots do despotic things that have absolutely nothing to do with not believing in god, they believed in being despots.

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u/Spyglass3 Sep 23 '22

Russian Orthodox 15-20%, Muslim 10-15%, other Christian 2% (2006 est.)

note: estimates are of practicing worshipers; Russia has large populations of non-practicing believers and non-believers, a legacy of over seven decades of official atheism under Soviet rule; Russia officially recognizes Orthodox Christianity, Islam, Judaism, and Buddhism as the country's traditional religions

  • CIA Factbook

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u/forgotmypassword-_- Sep 23 '22

What’s there to be scared of though? That’s the funny part.

It can depend. Are you a Christian who tried to be like Jesus, and uses your faith to try to make the world around you better for everyone?

Or is your system of morality dependant on the Bible, and the only thing keeping you from hurting others is the threat of eternal damnation?

Can you see with the second one might be frightening?

it would certainly make life easier if I, for instance, could just be normal and not have to have all these controversial opinions

Frankly, this sounds like you're deliberately aping the language gay/trans people use to defend themselves and explain why it's not a choice for them to be the way they are.

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u/itgoesdownandup Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

You realize OP said they were conservative right?

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u/Basil505 Sep 23 '22

I just picture mypillow guy and get the eebie jeebies

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u/Adorable_Wallaby1330 Sep 23 '22

That probably means you're a safe person for women to be around. It's kind of how I feel out trusting men I don't know anyway.

And I don't know why people are taking so much offense to this. Oh, wait I do. Reddit is full of crazy conservatives.

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u/Bee-Aromatic Sep 23 '22

And you must be fun at parties.

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u/haterhaterhate Sep 23 '22

Lol At 23 I’ve been around the block a few times. tried about every drug cocktail on this planet and graduated college so yeah I’m sure in a real life setting I’m more well adjusted and I’d be more fun than you ya sperg. Or was that just a lame redditor rhetorical comeback.

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u/Bee-Aromatic Sep 23 '22

Cool story bro.

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u/haterhaterhate Sep 23 '22

You talk like an NPC. Seethe.

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u/MythicalSavior666 Sep 23 '22

Better than talking like a nazi or q quack.

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u/haterhaterhate Sep 23 '22

Oh the mythical savior is here! Fucking automatically assume I’m right wing when I’ve never voted in my life and despise the clown show that politics is. I haven’t said a single thing relating to Q (which has been over for months dumbass) and certainly nothing supporting the third reich. So keep pretending that everyone who doesn’t agree with you is simply on the other side of the aisle. Makes it easy on your tiny brain. Too many words for you, cunt?

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u/MythicalSavior666 Sep 23 '22

Do you know what type of person calls others NPC's?

There is really only one group of people using that phrase, perhaps you are surrounded by them and picked up on their propaganda without your knowledge?

Can you name who usually does that and where that term comes from? Is it from right wingers, from nazi propaganda?

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u/Bee-Aromatic Sep 23 '22

I’m engaging you just enough to keep you on the line, a bit like a fish. The fact that you’re railing against a random guy on Reddit for no reason at this point says a lot more about you than it does about me.

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u/haterhaterhate Sep 23 '22

Le epic troller strikes again 🤪

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u/haterhaterhate Sep 23 '22

And you’re still responding so what does that say about you hahaha

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u/Bee-Aromatic Sep 23 '22

Did you miss the part about keeping you on the line like a fish?

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u/haterhaterhate Sep 23 '22

Did you miss the part where it’s two sides of the same coin

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u/Eggoswithleggos Sep 23 '22

How do you tell another person that they talk like a program only to continue with one of the 3 stock words your average internet conservative can come up with? Whats next, say they´re a cuck, just to make sure the whole room knows to laugh at you? This has to be a troll, right?

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u/haterhaterhate Sep 23 '22

No way! my username means you should take me very seriously

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u/brasse11MEU Sep 23 '22

You must be one of those conservative alpha males I hear about. Whoa. You guys are hard core. So based. How many libs have you owned today?

I can only speak for myself, as a regular white dude who likes chicks, I find white evangelical conservatives, like yourself, more hilariously pathetic than frightening. I've been legitimately afraid of two men in my adult life: Drill Instructor Pain (his real name) during OCS and First Sergeant Washington who ran the Company I was first assigned to. In ten years service, I encountered 5 or 6 Marines who were scary as fuck; their "R-strength" and lethal mentality will forever impress me.

Male conservative christians believe having a ridiculous amount of firearms they don't know how to use, a lifted truck, and listening to Jordan Peterson makes them "alpha". Dudes that are truly hard core don't listen to pod casts to learn they're hard or circle jerk online making edgy comments. Youth Pastor Dave isn't shit. It's funny when he talks about defending his rights, though. His bedazzled jeans and Affliction t-shirt are impressive! They're pathetic, disgusting, and hilarious. Not frightening.

*But not you. You're the exception. You and Youth Pastor Dave are going to prevent the "great replacement." Scary!

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u/Salty_Truth1 Sep 23 '22

BOO! LOL

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

There are generally just scary men - don’t know why the need to throw in Christian men. It’s just degrading and not a good look.

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u/AppropriateScience9 Sep 23 '22

Because Christian men (and their brainwashed women) are specifically the ones taking women's rights away as we speak - including the right to get an abortion to save their lives. What's frightening is that they're succeeding. It's also infuriating that anyone takes these assholes seriously.

And that's just one symptom of their misogyny. Granted, not all Christian men support Forced Birth agendas, but only Christian men (and their brainwashed women) are pushing it. Not gay people, not Transgenders, not Jews, not Muslims, etc.

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u/Internal-Breath6128 Sep 23 '22

All the repression makes them sicker.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

They aren’t sick tho and they don’t repress wth is with that logic

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u/redditarrded Sep 23 '22

Sounds like you’re repressing a subconscious desire to fuck straight conservative Christian men.

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u/Bee-Aromatic Sep 23 '22

That came right out of left field, eh?