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WCGW touching the barrel of a gun at a shooting range

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u/contrarianbynature Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 24 '22

Maybe I’m missing something, but it didn’t even look like she hit the target.

Edit: alright people I get it, derringer is only effective in very close proximity. No need to reply telling me that, about 50 other people already have. I was just referencing the fact that she mimicked blowing the smoke off the barrel like she was hot shit, when it didn’t look like she hit anything.

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u/izmaname Sep 23 '22

Honestly that is quite the range for a short barrel pistol with that much recoil. I’m not surprised she missed.

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u/Icy-Relationship-295 Sep 23 '22

No it's not. It's like less than 5 yards away and it's a literal man sized target.

I have a bond arms .45 long colt deringer with a 3.5 inch barrel. I can shoot a 6" grouping at 7-10 yards even though I suck dick with it.

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u/izmaname Sep 23 '22

3.5inches is quite a lot longer than 1.5

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u/ShelSilverstain Sep 23 '22

I'll be surprised if she even hit the backstop

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u/DadJokeBadJoke Sep 23 '22

The first time I shot anything larger than a .22 was my uncle's snubnose .38 when I was 9. He hung a gallon jug on the clothesline and you couldn't hit that thing unless you were a foot or less away. They're made for close-contact shooting. The Lynyrd Skynyrd song Saturday Night Special comes to mind.

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u/Xiomaraff Sep 23 '22

It’s like 5-10 yards away…

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u/Flynn_Kevin Sep 23 '22

Yea, those are really meant to be pressed up against the target before you pull the trigger.

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u/camyers1310 Sep 23 '22

This thing was made for elevator fighting, not standard gun fight.

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u/notapunk Sep 23 '22

A small hold-out gun is only going to be useful at or very near point blank range. IDK why anyone would bother taking a gun like that to a range.

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u/kdeaton06 Sep 23 '22

For tiktok likes

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u/charlie1109 Sep 23 '22

I love derringers because they're silly. You won't hit something that isn't three feet away from you but that's their designed range, they're honestly just fun to shoot.

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u/Xiomaraff Sep 23 '22

MF it’s like 15 feet wtf

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u/PusherLoveGirl Sep 23 '22

And that gun is smaller than most people’s cell phones. They’re meant to be used as last resorts in VERY close range.

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u/Xiomaraff Sep 23 '22

The difference in accuracy between this and like a 5” barrel is minimal at this range tbh.

It’s just about as hard to hit something at 15 feet with either gun if you’re inexperienced with it.

If you go to a range and shoot a subcompact vs compact gun of the same caliber you should see what i mean.

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u/PusherLoveGirl Sep 23 '22

Yes, I have shot guns of all shapes and sizes for twenty years now. Derringers are hard to hold, have minimal sights with a very short sight radius and worse recoil than guns of the same caliber. Yes, you can hit a man-sized target at fifteen feet with practice. No, it is not a minimal difference between shooting a gun with a 5” barrel. If it was in a vice it would be a minimal difference but in a shooter’s hands the difference is extreme.

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u/Edward_Fingerhands Sep 23 '22

To stage a video to make you look badass.

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u/robby_synclair Sep 23 '22

To get used to shooting it. I would take my girl to the range if she got something like that and teach her how to safely operate it. You know so she doesn't do something stupid like burn a titty.

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u/thenasch Sep 23 '22

To get used to shooting it make a video and get a bunch of likes.

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u/robby_synclair Sep 23 '22

That is definitely not the only reason anyone goes to the range. I have never seen anyone making a video at the ranges I have been too. I have seen people shoot derringer 22s.

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u/thenasch Sep 24 '22

It was a joke, see because that's why the person in the video did it.

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u/robby_synclair Sep 24 '22

Bit the question asked was "why would anyone do it"

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u/thenasch Sep 24 '22

IT WAS A JOKE. Jokes are not designed to accurately answer questions. Maybe you've seen one before? Given your response I'm not entirely sure.

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u/JangoFettsEvilTwin Sep 23 '22

For TikTok it seems

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u/fondots Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

Arguably, if I were the type to carry a gun, I would think I'd want to practice with my carry gun more than my other guns. If it came to the point that I needed to use it, shit has obviously gone pretty far south, I'd want to be certain that I'd be capable of operating it competently and without fumbling with it, especially since if it ever came down to it, it probably won't be under ideal circumstances, i could have a broken hand, be blind in one eye, dehydrated, would probably be all hopped up on adrenaline, and maybe be sleep deprived, cold, wet, and physically exhausted. As they say, under pressure most people don't rise to the occasion, they fall to their level of training.

I'd also want to have put a lot of rounds through it before I needed to count on it just to make sure I know that it's mechanically reliable. If I can't count on it to go bang when i pull the bang-switch, why would I carry it?

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u/Domestic_AA_Battery Sep 23 '22

Exactly this. No one should be faulting her at least for the decision to shoot it at a range. You should be VERY familiar with a conceal carry gun. But you should only be doing so to practice your draw, mechanics, aim, safety (if it has one, highly debatable topic for conceal carry guns) and getting used to the recoil. As far as hitting the target, not so much.

For conceal carry, you're likely going to be using it at close range. For home defense, you're going to want a nice, long barreled mid-size/full-size pistol (and a shotgun). But most guns for women are made smaller, lighter, and are generally terrible guns to shoot. But they're not made for competitive shooting or anything. They're made to be comfortable and to hurt or kill your target as a last resort.

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u/notapunk Sep 23 '22

Let's be real here there's no amount of practice and time on the range it's going to make a derringer not a derringer. This gun is strictly to be concealed and used at close range. You're not aiming so much as pointing in the general direction of that which you want to hit.

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u/acog Sep 23 '22

No part of their comment said "I'd go to the range to become a derringer marksman." They didn't even mention hitting the target because they were explicitly saying that didn't matter.

The benefits they listed: get used to firing it, be able to confidently fire it quickly, and get a feel for how reliable it was.

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u/fondots Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

You'll notice that I never once said anything about aiming.

You still want to have the muscle memory to draw your weapon, disable the safety/cock the hammer/any other steps needed to make it ready to fire (not looking to get into the debate now about whether carry guns should even have a safety, but suffice it to say that if you choose to carry a gun with a safety, you need to make operating that safety a part of your training.) You want to be prepared for the recoil, you may only get 1 follow-up shot with that derringer, but if you end up needing it you want to be able to use that one follow-up shot effectively.

But since we're on the subject of aiming, i do subscribe to the idea that nearly any gun is probably more accurate than the person using it is likely capable of using it in most cases. We human users will almost definitely introduce far more chaos into the system than the manufacturing tolerances of the gun and ammunition will. That's not to say any gun can be a super accurate sniper rifle if you were take the human element out of it, and the effective and accurate range of a short barreled handgun is always going to be quite short, but in skilled hands or under laboratory conditions they can definitely produce acceptable groupings at further distances than you might think.

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u/izmaname Sep 23 '22

Even 3 inch barrel sucks. Concealed carries marketed for women tend to suck.

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u/audacesfortunajuvat Sep 23 '22

3” barrel works fine if you practice. You’ll miss every shot with a 5” barrel if you don’t. Not terribly difficult to hit a man sized target at even 100 yards with a 3” barrel (or a steel plate, for that matter, if you practice). Totally reasonable to consistently hit a 6x6 bullseye at 25 or so. She missed here because she has no idea what she doing.

Carry a Shield, because some woman told me it was reliable, and have no problems hitting what I’m shooting with it.

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u/izmaname Sep 23 '22

I hate the Shield tbh

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u/blasphem0usx Sep 23 '22

it's like 20 feet away. might as well just have a knife or a sword if you have to get any closer.

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u/OuterLives Sep 23 '22

Would take her a lot longer to pull a sword out of her tiddies

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u/izmaname Sep 23 '22

Ya a gun this short is a joke

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u/Dadmed25 Sep 23 '22

It's a torso sized target like 5 yards away... And who cares about the recoil when you take 5 seconds between shots.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22

It might just be the angle but it looks like she is aiming above the target.

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u/chiliedogg Sep 23 '22

That's a real long distance for that gun. The cartridge is half the length of that firearm. With the common twist rate for a 357, when shot out of a 2.5" barrel it's turned a whopping 0.13 rotations. It's basically tumbling wildly right out of the barrel.

I can put 15 rounds in a ragged hole from 20 yards with my competition pistols, but at 5 yards I have trouble hitting paper with my .38 Derringer.

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u/Consistent-Bear-5158 Sep 23 '22

What do you suggest for a woman wanting a purse gun?

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u/casualrocket Sep 23 '22

S&W 38 special model 642 or 442 are both tiny pocket revolvers and a 38 is a bullet with a fair punch.

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u/Aleric44 Sep 23 '22

Depends. I'd rent one out before making a purchase. Its hard to beat a p365 or springfield hellcat on size and capacity though.

You could get like a .38 spl revolver but just know the limitations of capacity and reloading. Also ammo availability.

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u/chiliedogg Sep 23 '22

Something like a Springfield Hellcat or Sig 365.

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u/scottspalding Sep 23 '22

Taurus Judge with shot shells. Start blasting then run. https://www.taurususa.com/revolvers/taurus-judge

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u/scottspalding Sep 23 '22

You can keep a revolver in a purse for years and they will not jam. Purses are a hostile environment for semiautomatic weapons. Also a woman can put her hand in her purse when in a possibly dangerous situation and fire from the hip with devastating effects using shot shell without worrying about accuracy. Purse guns aren't for daydreaming about an active shooter situation and being a hero. They are to prevent being raped in a parking lot.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

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u/scottspalding Sep 23 '22

Clearly you have never seen a point blank 410 wound. Also where is a woman in a sundress supposed to keep a gun? Practical every day needs are more important than ideal solutions like holsters. Lastly congratulations on being in the anti taurus club. There are many like you and y'all never offer proof.

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u/Dadmed25 Sep 23 '22

https://www.bondarms.com/wont-believe-far-away-can-bond-arms-backup-accurate/

Here's a dude hitting targets out at 55yards. (165ft)

You're not missing bc of twist rate/bullet tumble...

You're missing bc you don't practice with that gun 1/10th the amount you do with your comp gun.

...And why would you, you don't shoot derringers at range. But it's not the guns fault.

Just like with every other gun, the vast majority of people who pick it up and shoot it will never exceed the accuracy it can produce.

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u/izmaname Sep 23 '22

You could throw a bullet as accurately as this shorty gun fires

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u/Icy-Relationship-295 Sep 23 '22

Have you ever even shot one? Maybe you just sucked with it...

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u/izmaname Sep 23 '22

Buddy regardless of training physics dictates that a projectile coming out of a chamber with so little guidance is going to have a wide variable of movement

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u/InYoCabezaWitNoChasa Sep 23 '22

I think you greatly overestimate my throwing aim.

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u/Dadmed25 Sep 23 '22

Nah, most people just don't practice.

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u/izmaname Sep 23 '22

Practice or not a 1.5inch barrel is unpredictable.

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u/Dadmed25 Sep 23 '22

Do you honestly think that if you somehow managed bench rest that thing that it would just throw bullets all over the place?

The gun is always more accurate than the vast majority of the people who pick it up.

Here's a video of some dude shooting one out at 55 YARDS.

https://www.bondarms.com/wont-believe-far-away-can-bond-arms-backup-accurate/

In other words: The gun doesn't suck, you do.

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u/MisterDonkey Sep 23 '22

You a bond arms salesman, or what?

I actually have benchmarked this derringer. I would describe it as throwing bullets all over the place.

Also. Defective firing pin from the factory. Chamber too narrow so cartridges would either stick or outright not fit.

Not a fan of these slick looking trinkets. Because that's what they are: trinkets. Curio.

I collect oddball pistols. This one belongs in a shadow box rather than a holster.

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u/Street-Week-380 Sep 23 '22

Lol post a video of you shooting a target 25 feet away with a Derringer and we'll believe you.

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u/Dadmed25 Sep 23 '22

The gun is always more accurate than the vast majority of the people who pick it up.

Here's a video of some dude shooting one out at 55 YARDS. That's 165ft

https://www.bondarms.com/wont-believe-far-away-can-bond-arms-backup-accurate/

In other words: The gun doesn't suck, you do.

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u/Street-Week-380 Sep 24 '22

That's someone with excellent form, and a lot of experience. You still haven't provided a video of you shooting.

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u/Dadmed25 Sep 24 '22

Do you think this is some gotcha?

The dudes "excellent form" is just how to shoot a pistol 101, and he's hitting targets out at 165 ft..

I don't need to go and make a fucking video hitting a big ass target at 25 feet to prove to some idiot on the internet that it's possible. I'm competent with firearms, almost certainly wouldn't do as well as this guy, but I would not have trouble at 25ft.

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u/Street-Week-380 Sep 24 '22

So am I. But I'm not sitting here crowing about how superior I am.

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u/Domestic_AA_Battery Sep 23 '22

That's damn impressive. Dude has excellent form

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u/Crazytrixstaful Sep 23 '22

She can barely squeeze the trigger.

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u/Dadmed25 Sep 23 '22

Yeah, but that's her fault, not the guns

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u/Embarrassed_Quit_450 Sep 23 '22

Her right shoulder position is atrocious. With real recoil she'd get an injury soon enough.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22 edited Nov 03 '22

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u/atomicfarts420 Sep 23 '22

Literally every pistol is hard to aim compared to a rifle. With a rifle at even 200 yards if you miss you just suck.

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u/DanfromCalgary Sep 23 '22

None of those words fit together

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u/KingBrinell Sep 23 '22

My dad always called those necktie pistols. As you have to grab the guy by the necktie in order to be close enough. Fun to shoot but super inaccurate.

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u/raketenfakmauspanzer Sep 23 '22

I mean assuming it’s for personal protection wouldn’t most instances for its use be a short ranges?

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u/JuzoItami Sep 23 '22

In old Westerns they only needed to be effective to about the width of a poker table. She was really stretching that range.

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u/izmaname Sep 23 '22

You’re better off throwing the bullet

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u/blametheboogie Sep 23 '22

Next ones coming faster.

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u/ScreenshotShitposts Sep 23 '22

Idk I came pretty fast

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u/dern_the_hermit Sep 23 '22

Just do what this guy does and you'll be safe. Safe forever.